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From: T.J. Higgins on 6 Apr 2010 10:01 In article <Zouun.149503$K81.36753(a)newsfe18.iad>, Canuck57 wrote: >On 05/04/2010 11:40 AM, jim beam wrote: > >>> Two huge reasons. First is net household incomes are down big time. Less >>> money for autos. More taxes coming too. No pricing elasticity for any NA >>> auto maker. >> >> so how is it that toyota can manufacture vehicles in n.a., using locally >> sourced n.a. componentry, and make a profit, but g.m. can't? > >Good question. Better management, less union, better design, better >reputation making for better pricing. And as mentioned earlier, MUCH lower pension and health care costs for retired workers. -- TJH tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net
From: jim beam on 6 Apr 2010 10:16 On 04/06/2010 07:01 AM, T.J. Higgins wrote: > In article<Zouun.149503$K81.36753(a)newsfe18.iad>, Canuck57 wrote: >> On 05/04/2010 11:40 AM, jim beam wrote: >> >>>> Two huge reasons. First is net household incomes are down big time. Less >>>> money for autos. More taxes coming too. No pricing elasticity for any NA >>>> auto maker. >>> >>> so how is it that toyota can manufacture vehicles in n.a., using locally >>> sourced n.a. componentry, and make a profit, but g.m. can't? >> >> Good question. Better management, less union, better design, better >> reputation making for better pricing. > > And as mentioned earlier, MUCH lower pension and health care > costs for retired workers. > that doesn't explain it. g.m. have been making profits on their well managed and well run european operations, and european pension/health care costs [along with virtually every other cost too] are /way/ higher than here. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Ron Peterson on 6 Apr 2010 10:32 On Apr 5, 8:11 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote: > I disagree. Without the ads, GM would hardly sell any cars. Consumers go to the Web to get information on cars now, advertisement costs could be better spent making better vehicles. -- Ron
From: Mike Hunter on 6 Apr 2010 11:18 Better management? Better design? Better pricing? You for got to mention Toyota has been subsidized by the Japanese government ever since WWII and Toyota takes all of if profits, earned in the US, back to Japan US Federal Corporate Tax free. "T.J. Higgins" <ernest.p.worrell(a)vernal.equinox.edu> wrote in message news:DKKdnXD7C9g4oybWnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d(a)posted.hiwaay2... > In article <Zouun.149503$K81.36753(a)newsfe18.iad>, Canuck57 wrote: >>On 05/04/2010 11:40 AM, jim beam wrote: >> >>>> Two huge reasons. First is net household incomes are down big time. >>>> Less >>>> money for autos. More taxes coming too. No pricing elasticity for any >>>> NA >>>> auto maker. >>> >>> so how is it that toyota can manufacture vehicles in n.a., using locally >>> sourced n.a. componentry, and make a profit, but g.m. can't? >> >>Good question. Better management? Better design? Better pricing? > > And as mentioned earlier, MUCH lower pension and health care > costs for retired workers. >
From: Mike Hunter on 6 Apr 2010 11:20
So are the selling prices of the cars Europe. "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:3NedndS7PNPO3ybWnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 04/06/2010 07:01 AM, T.J. Higgins wrote: >> In article<Zouun.149503$K81.36753(a)newsfe18.iad>, Canuck57 wrote: >>> On 05/04/2010 11:40 AM, jim beam wrote: >>> >>>>> Two huge reasons. First is net household incomes are down big time. >>>>> Less >>>>> money for autos. More taxes coming too. No pricing elasticity for any >>>>> NA >>>>> auto maker. >>>> >>>> so how is it that toyota can manufacture vehicles in n.a., using >>>> locally >>>> sourced n.a. componentry, and make a profit, but g.m. can't? >>> >>> Good question. Better management, less union, better design, better >>> reputation making for better pricing. >> >> And as mentioned earlier, MUCH lower pension and health care >> costs for retired workers. >> > > that doesn't explain it. g.m. have been making profits on their well > managed and well run european operations, and european pension/health care > costs [along with virtually every other cost too] are /way/ higher than > here. > > -- > nomina rutrum rutrum |