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From: jim on 29 Mar 2010 10:45 Obveeus wrote: > > "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote in message > news:__CdnXr864OGOS3WnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d(a)bright.net... > > > > > > Obveeus wrote: > >> > >> "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message > >> news:Xns9D4A50DF3DBA0tegger(a)208.90.168.18... > >> > "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in > >> > news:JbednSC0l5uZXTLWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Unfortunatley, it only matters what a jury of untrained people can be > >> >> convinced of... > >> > > >> > Just like the Vioxx trial. > >> > > >> > I remember what the jury foreman said after the Vioxx trial, that the > >> > jury > >> > understood the defense's arguments no better than, "Mwa, mwa, mwa", > >> > like > >> > how the adults sound in a Charlie Brown cartoon. And then they voted to > >> > convict anyway. Very scary. > >> > >> An even better example would be Dow Corning and the 'Silicone Breast > >> Implant'. > > > > That would be a better example of what? > > Lawsuits propelling a company into bankruptcy even though there was nothing > wrong with the product? Well that is hardly the case. There is still significant risks and precautions involved with breast implants. A trip to the FDA web site and see what they say about the risk: [Quote] Some of the risks of breast implants include: * reoperations (additional surgeries), with or without removal of the device * capsular contracture (hardening of the area around the implant) * breast pain * changes in nipple and breast sensation * rupture with deflation for saline-filled implants * rupture with or without symptoms for silicone gel-filled implants * migration of silicone gel for silicone gel-filled breast implants. For a more complete description of the possible risks and complications of breast implants, see Breast Implant Consumer Handbook: Local Complications and Reoperations3. You can also find a list of complications for each approved breast implant in the patient labeling; see Labeling for Approved Breast Implants. [End quote] > > >> The entire company was run into bankruptcy for a decade as the > >> result of nothing more than incorrect speculation not backed up by > >> scientific research. > > > > Sounds like you like speculating without the benefit of any scientific > > research or facts. There has been little scientific research that shows > > the implants are harmless. And that was why Dow eventually lost > > lawsuits. They lied - claiming they had done the research that showed it > > was safe when they hadn't. > > You apparently are uninformed. Numerous studies arouhnd the world have show > Silicone breast implants were not responsible for the problems claimed. Maybe although it is still quite controversial. And maybe if the studies had been done before litigation instead of as a consequence of litigation everyone would have been better off. But whether the problems claimed could be proven to be directly caused by breast implants wasn't the central issue at trial. The issue that convinced the jury was that Dow was not truthful about revealing risks they knew about and what they knew and didn't know about the safety of the product. -jim
From: Mark on 30 Mar 2010 15:33 > > The AM limit is measured as carrier power, so if you're doing a nice 100% > modulation then the peak envelope power is actually eight watts because the > positive signal peaks are twice the carrier level and the negative peaks > are zero. > > Hi Scott, Drifting a bit OT, but at 100% AM modulation the PEP is actually 4x the unmodulated carrier power. A 100 Watt AM tranamitter at 100% modulation hits 400 Watts PEP. Mark
From: Scott Dorsey on 30 Mar 2010 15:50
In article <5ff0cebe-f6cf-424f-97b4-0e0890e6f117(a)i5g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, Mark <makolber(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> The AM limit is measured as carrier power, so if you're doing a nice 100% >> modulation then the peak envelope power is actually eight watts because the >> positive signal peaks are twice the carrier level and the negative peaks >> are zero. > >Drifting a bit OT, but at 100% AM modulation the PEP is actually 4x >the unmodulated carrier power. A 100 Watt AM tranamitter at 100% >modulation hits 400 Watts PEP. Ergh, you're right! Voltage vs. power... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |