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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 23 Mar 2010 22:26
AND a new refrigerator!

The news tonight said that the "Cash for Clunker Appliances" takes effect
April 22.

My water heater is ooooooollllllddddd and needed to be replaced 2 years
ago. I was going to do it last year. Glad I waited!!!

Also, I need a bigger refrigerator. On the same newscast they said that
some fridges will be as low as $50 thanks to this.

Now, I'm going to apply for the Energy Assistance to get the windows
replaced before next winter.

If these Bozos are going to give it away, please, someone give me a damn
good reason why I should not be there with my hand out, too...


From: larry moe 'n curly on 24 Mar 2010 03:14


Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>
> AND a new refrigerator!
>
> The news tonight said that the "Cash for Clunker Appliances" takes effect
> April 22.
>
> My water heater is ooooooollllllddddd and needed to be replaced 2 years
> ago. I was going to do it last year. Glad I waited!!!
>
> Also, I need a bigger refrigerator. On the same newscast they said that
> some fridges will be as low as $50 thanks to this.
>
> Now, I'm going to apply for the Energy Assistance to get the windows
> replaced before next winter.
>
> If these Bozos are going to give it away, please, someone give me a damn
> good reason why I should not be there with my hand out, too...

In normal times I would have said you shouldn't do it unless you
desperately need those items and can't afford them. But because we're
in a depression that can't be cured except through more spending, you
should take advantage of the government subsidies. It's sort of like
the GM bailout.

BTW, you may want to check appliance forums, like FixItNow.com and
ApplianceAid.com, to see what refrigerator brands are most reliable.
Usually, Whirlpool (AKA Roper, Estate, Costco Kirkland) and GE/
Hotpoint come out on top, but GE parts can be costly.. Among the
Korean brands, I believe L-Gs are reliable, while Samsungs are not,
but regardless of brand, some parts for stainless steel refrigerators
can be ridiculously expensive. For example, one person had a damaged
door and was told a replacement would cost $1,300.

The best way to make a water heater last is by changing the anode
rod(s) every 5-6 years.
From: Hachiroku on 24 Mar 2010 09:51
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:14:47 -0700, larry moe 'n curly wrote:

> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>
>> AND a new refrigerator!
>>
>> The news tonight said that the "Cash for Clunker Appliances" takes
>> effect April 22.
>>
>> My water heater is ooooooollllllddddd and needed to be replaced 2 years
>> ago. I was going to do it last year. Glad I waited!!!
>>
>> Also, I need a bigger refrigerator. On the same newscast they said that
>> some fridges will be as low as $50 thanks to this.
>>
>> Now, I'm going to apply for the Energy Assistance to get the windows
>> replaced before next winter.
>>
>> If these Bozos are going to give it away, please, someone give me a
>> damn good reason why I should not be there with my hand out, too...
>
> In normal times I would have said you shouldn't do it unless you
> desperately need those items and can't afford them. But because we're
> in a depression that can't be cured except through more spending, you
> should take advantage of the government subsidies. It's sort of like
> the GM bailout.
>
> BTW, you may want to check appliance forums, like FixItNow.com and
> ApplianceAid.com, to see what refrigerator brands are most reliable.
> Usually, Whirlpool (AKA Roper, Estate, Costco Kirkland) and GE/ Hotpoint
> come out on top, but GE parts can be costly.. Among the Korean brands,
> I believe L-Gs are reliable, while Samsungs are not, but regardless of
> brand, some parts for stainless steel refrigerators can be ridiculously
> expensive. For example, one person had a damaged door and was told a
> replacement would cost $1,300.
>
> The best way to make a water heater last is by changing the anode rod(s)
> every 5-6 years.

No attack? No, "If you're a Conservative, why don't you pay for them
yourself"?

Wow. LMC, sometimes you stun me!

And yes, I do need the water heater. It is about as old as the house,
which is as old as *I* am, so it's OLD! The last year and a half it's
been running more than usual and chewing up the electric bill. At this
rate I'll be paying what Al Gore pays! ;)

The refrigerator? Well...it's 10 years old, but I'm eating out of the
freezer more often and it has a postage stamp sized freezer.

From: Michael on 24 Mar 2010 12:37
On Mar 24, 6:51 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:14:47 -0700, larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>
> >> AND a new refrigerator!
>
> >> The news tonight said that the "Cash for Clunker Appliances" takes
> >> effect April 22.
>
> >> My water heater is ooooooollllllddddd and needed to be replaced 2 years
> >> ago. I was going to do it last year. Glad I waited!!!
>
> >> Also, I need a bigger refrigerator. On the same newscast they said that
> >> some fridges will be as low as $50 thanks to this.
>
> >> Now, I'm going to apply for the Energy Assistance to get the windows
> >> replaced before next winter.
>
> >> If these Bozos are going to give it away, please, someone give me a
> >> damn good reason why I should not be there with my hand out, too...
>
> > In normal times I would have said you shouldn't do it unless you
> > desperately need those items and can't afford them.  But because we're
> > in a depression that can't be cured except through more spending, you
> > should take advantage of the government subsidies.  It's sort of like
> > the GM bailout.
>
> > BTW, you may want to check appliance forums, like FixItNow.com and
> > ApplianceAid.com, to see what refrigerator brands are most reliable.
> > Usually, Whirlpool (AKA Roper, Estate, Costco Kirkland) and GE/ Hotpoint
> > come out on top, but GE parts can be costly..  Among the Korean brands,
> > I believe L-Gs are reliable, while Samsungs are not, but regardless of
> > brand, some parts for stainless steel refrigerators can be ridiculously
> > expensive.   For example, one person had a damaged door and was told a
> > replacement would cost $1,300.
>
> > The best way to make a water heater last is by changing the anode rod(s)
> > every 5-6 years.
>
> No attack? No, "If you're a Conservative, why don't you pay for them
> yourself"?
>
> Wow. LMC, sometimes you stun me!
>
> And yes, I do need the water heater. It is about as old as the house,
> which is as old as *I* am, so it's OLD! The last year and a half it's
> been running more than usual and chewing up the electric bill. At this
> rate I'll be paying what Al Gore pays!  ;)
>
> The refrigerator? Well...it's 10 years old, but I'm eating out of the
> freezer more often and it has a postage stamp sized freezer.


You're supposed to drain out the bottom of the water heater annually
to reduce scale build-up. You've been doing this, right?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2001880_drain-water-heater.html

How old *are* you, Hachi?

Michael
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Mar 2010 18:00
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:37:52 -0700, Michael wrote:

> On Mar 24, 6:51 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:14:47 -0700, larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>
>> >> AND a new refrigerator!
>>
>> >> The news tonight said that the "Cash for Clunker Appliances" takes
>> >> effect April 22.
>>
>> >> My water heater is ooooooollllllddddd and needed to be replaced 2
>> >> years ago. I was going to do it last year. Glad I waited!!!
>>
>> >> Also, I need a bigger refrigerator. On the same newscast they said
>> >> that some fridges will be as low as $50 thanks to this.
>>
>> >> Now, I'm going to apply for the Energy Assistance to get the windows
>> >> replaced before next winter.
>>
>> >> If these Bozos are going to give it away, please, someone give me a
>> >> damn good reason why I should not be there with my hand out, too...
>>
>> > In normal times I would have said you shouldn't do it unless you
>> > desperately need those items and can't afford them.  But because
>> > we're in a depression that can't be cured except through more
>> > spending, you should take advantage of the government subsidies.
>> >  It's sort of like the GM bailout.
>>
>> > BTW, you may want to check appliance forums, like FixItNow.com and
>> > ApplianceAid.com, to see what refrigerator brands are most reliable.
>> > Usually, Whirlpool (AKA Roper, Estate, Costco Kirkland) and GE/
>> > Hotpoint come out on top, but GE parts can be costly..  Among the
>> > Korean brands, I believe L-Gs are reliable, while Samsungs are not,
>> > but regardless of brand, some parts for stainless steel refrigerators
>> > can be ridiculously expensive.   For example, one person had a
>> > damaged door and was told a replacement would cost $1,300.
>>
>> > The best way to make a water heater last is by changing the anode
>> > rod(s) every 5-6 years.
>>
>> No attack? No, "If you're a Conservative, why don't you pay for them
>> yourself"?
>>
>> Wow. LMC, sometimes you stun me!
>>
>> And yes, I do need the water heater. It is about as old as the house,
>> which is as old as *I* am, so it's OLD! The last year and a half it's
>> been running more than usual and chewing up the electric bill. At this
>> rate I'll be paying what Al Gore pays!  ;)
>>
>> The refrigerator? Well...it's 10 years old, but I'm eating out of the
>> freezer more often and it has a postage stamp sized freezer.
>
>
> You're supposed to drain out the bottom of the water heater annually to
> reduce scale build-up. You've been doing this, right?
>
> http://www.ehow.com/how_2001880_drain-water-heater.html
>
> How old *are* you, Hachi?
>
> Michael


Hey! It's not a car!!!

That's OK. I am as old as the water heater. The house was built in 1957. I
can't remember if it was replaced since we owned the house, it may only be
28 years old. Long enough, I think...


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