From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:39:19 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
> news:00bf9a7b$0$26797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> In article <VHP0n.16445$0U1.3847(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>> newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2010.01.05.18.08.04.794200(a)e86.GTS...
>>> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:11:19 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> LOL! You've had your nosed rubbed in it so many times you'll NEVER
>>> >>> get
>>> >>> the brown out! But, you can keep thinking you're one step ahead, if
>>> >>> it
>>> >>> makes you feel good.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> And, I'd have another look at who's hallucinating, pal...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> And yet, you had hallucinations regarding news sources in this
>>> >> thread. There are dozens of news sources which, compared with yours,
>>> >> fit the "grownup" definition perfectly.
>>> >
>>> > Tell me how you figure this....
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, let's look at your list of news sources - that should answer your
>>> question.
>>>
>>> 1) Glen Beck
>>> 2) None
>>
>> Have you ever actually *listened* to Glenn Beck or do you just repeat
>> the rest of redundant brain meltdown syndrome nonsense other people
>> spout about him?
>>
>> How many times have you actually watched his show to draw such a
>> dismissive conclusion?
>
>
> Beck is not a news source, so when I want news, why would I listen to him?
> He's an entertainer, like Michael Savage or Dr. Laura. You know that.

He's as reliable as any of the blogs you so handily point to. What makes
any of them so different?



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:01:27 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
> news:00230309$0$25222$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> In article <C4Q0n.16447$0U1.9617(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>> newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>>>
>>> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
>>> news:00bf9a7b$0$26797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>> > In article <VHP0n.16445$0U1.3847(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>>> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>>> >>
>>> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> >> news:pan.2010.01.05.18.08.04.794200(a)e86.GTS...
>>> >> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:11:19 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>> LOL! You've had your nosed rubbed in it so many times you'll
>>> >> >>> NEVER get
>>> >> >>> the brown out! But, you can keep thinking you're one step ahead,
>>> >> >>> if
>>> >> >>> it
>>> >> >>> makes you feel good.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> And, I'd have another look at who's hallucinating, pal...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> And yet, you had hallucinations regarding news sources in this
>>> >> >> thread.
>>> >> >> There are dozens of news sources which, compared with yours, fit
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> "grownup" definition perfectly.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Tell me how you figure this....
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, let's look at your list of news sources - that should answer
>>> >> your
>>> >> question.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1) Glen Beck
>>> >> 2) None
>>> >
>>> > Have you ever actually *listened* to Glenn Beck or do you just repeat
>>> > the rest of redundant brain meltdown syndrome nonsense other people
>>> > spout about him?
>>> >
>>> > How many times have you actually watched his show to draw such a
>>> > dismissive conclusion?
>>>
>>>
>>> Beck is not a news source, so when I want news, why would I listen to
>>> him?
>>> He's an entertainer, like Michael Savage or Dr. Laura. You know that.
>>>
>>> If you want gardening information, do you visit a store which sells &
>>> services sewing machines?
>>
>> So I take it you're *unwilling* to answer the question because you are
>> *asking* questions, that's okay I understand.
>>
>> I mean really, what is a *news* source anyway Joe. I will not argue the
>> semantics because it's a moot point and I can't compete with your
>> obsession over it. Damn near every outlet of so called *news* is slanted
>> one way or the other so the actual *trust* levels are not there, at
>> least in my eyes. So saying what's real news & what's not is a moot
>> point as well. When an administration, yes the government, comes out &
>> starts defining what's *real* news as opposed to fake news I become VERY
>> concerned, it's not their place to define that. Cable shows are a whole
>> NEW slant on covering the news, I'd just as soon say that the big names
>> on MSNBC & some on CNN fit the category of *entertainers* as well but
>> you know what, I still sit & listen to them & *never* dismiss
>> *EVERYTHING* they say, that's just stupid & immature. But, to each his
>> own I suppose.
>
>
> yadda yadda yadda.
>
> Beck is not a news source. He's an entertainer. But even if he was a news
> source, he'd still be the Hack's ONLY source,

Prove it.

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:29:04 -0500, ByTor wrote:

> In article <lpQ0n.16449$0U1.1034(a)newsfe16.iad>, newstrash(a)frontiernet.net
> says...
>>
>> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
>> news:00230309$0$25222$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> > In article <C4Q0n.16447$0U1.9617(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>> >>
>> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:00bf9a7b$0$26797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> >> > In article <VHP0n.16445$0U1.3847(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>> >> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:pan.2010.01.05.18.08.04.794200(a)e86.GTS...
>> >> >> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:11:19 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>> LOL! You've had your nosed rubbed in it so many times you'll
>> >> >> >>> NEVER get
>> >> >> >>> the brown out! But, you can keep thinking you're one step
>> >> >> >>> ahead, if
>> >> >> >>> it
>> >> >> >>> makes you feel good.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> And, I'd have another look at who's hallucinating, pal...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> And yet, you had hallucinations regarding news sources in this
>> >> >> >> thread.
>> >> >> >> There are dozens of news sources which, compared with yours,
>> >> >> >> fit the
>> >> >> >> "grownup" definition perfectly.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tell me how you figure this....
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, let's look at your list of news sources - that should answer
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> question.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) Glen Beck
>> >> >> 2) None
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you ever actually *listened* to Glenn Beck or do you just
>> >> > repeat the rest of redundant brain meltdown syndrome nonsense other
>> >> > people spout about him?
>> >> >
>> >> > How many times have you actually watched his show to draw such a
>> >> > dismissive conclusion?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Beck is not a news source, so when I want news, why would I listen to
>> >> him?
>> >> He's an entertainer, like Michael Savage or Dr. Laura. You know that.
>> >>
>> >> If you want gardening information, do you visit a store which sells &
>> >> services sewing machines?
>> >
>> > So I take it you're *unwilling* to answer the question because you are
>> > *asking* questions, that's okay I understand.
>> >
>> > I mean really, what is a *news* source anyway Joe. I will not argue
>> > the semantics because it's a moot point and I can't compete with your
>> > obsession over it. Damn near every outlet of so called *news* is
>> > slanted one way or the other so the actual *trust* levels are not
>> > there, at least in my eyes. So saying what's real news & what's not is
>> > a moot point as well. When an administration, yes the government,
>> > comes out & starts defining what's *real* news as opposed to fake news
>> > I become VERY concerned, it's not their place to define that. Cable
>> > shows are a whole NEW slant on covering the news, I'd just as soon say
>> > that the big names on MSNBC & some on CNN fit the category of
>> > *entertainers* as well but you know what, I still sit & listen to them
>> > & *never* dismiss *EVERYTHING* they say, that's just stupid &
>> > immature. But, to each his own I suppose.
>>
>>
>> yadda yadda yadda.
>
> What is this? Are you *dismissing* me?
>
>> Beck is not a news source. He's an entertainer. But even if he was a
>> news source, he'd still be the Hack's ONLY source, and that's very
>> unhealthy.
>
> I seriously doubt you are concerned with a persons *unhealthy* ways, it's
> a *game* to you playing with people. If one had to say something is
> unhealthy I suggest you look in the mirror.

He's already labeled you, in his feeble mind, as a Neo-Whatever so now
dismisses you when you get him to paint himself into a corner. You also
asked for something a bit specific. I call him "The Incredible Jell-0 man".

Have you ever stuck a fork into Jell-0 and then removed it? Try to find
the marks the fork left...



From: ByTor on
In article <pan.2010.01.05.21.45.26.487974(a)e86.GTS>, Trueno(a)e86.GTS
says...
>
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:29:04 -0500, ByTor wrote:
>
> > In article <lpQ0n.16449$0U1.1034(a)newsfe16.iad>, newstrash(a)frontiernet.net
> > says...
> >>
> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
> >> news:00230309$0$25222$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> >> > In article <C4Q0n.16447$0U1.9617(a)newsfe16.iad>,
> >> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
> >> >>
> >> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:00bf9a7b$0$26797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> >> >> > In article <VHP0n.16445$0U1.3847(a)newsfe16.iad>,
> >> >> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:pan.2010.01.05.18.08.04.794200(a)e86.GTS...
> >> >> >> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:11:19 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> LOL! You've had your nosed rubbed in it so many times you'll
> >> >> >> >>> NEVER get
> >> >> >> >>> the brown out! But, you can keep thinking you're one step
> >> >> >> >>> ahead, if
> >> >> >> >>> it
> >> >> >> >>> makes you feel good.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> And, I'd have another look at who's hallucinating, pal...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> And yet, you had hallucinations regarding news sources in this
> >> >> >> >> thread.
> >> >> >> >> There are dozens of news sources which, compared with yours,
> >> >> >> >> fit the
> >> >> >> >> "grownup" definition perfectly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tell me how you figure this....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Well, let's look at your list of news sources - that should answer
> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> question.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1) Glen Beck
> >> >> >> 2) None
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Have you ever actually *listened* to Glenn Beck or do you just
> >> >> > repeat the rest of redundant brain meltdown syndrome nonsense other
> >> >> > people spout about him?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How many times have you actually watched his show to draw such a
> >> >> > dismissive conclusion?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Beck is not a news source, so when I want news, why would I listen to
> >> >> him?
> >> >> He's an entertainer, like Michael Savage or Dr. Laura. You know that.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you want gardening information, do you visit a store which sells &
> >> >> services sewing machines?
> >> >
> >> > So I take it you're *unwilling* to answer the question because you are
> >> > *asking* questions, that's okay I understand.
> >> >
> >> > I mean really, what is a *news* source anyway Joe. I will not argue
> >> > the semantics because it's a moot point and I can't compete with your
> >> > obsession over it. Damn near every outlet of so called *news* is
> >> > slanted one way or the other so the actual *trust* levels are not
> >> > there, at least in my eyes. So saying what's real news & what's not is
> >> > a moot point as well. When an administration, yes the government,
> >> > comes out & starts defining what's *real* news as opposed to fake news
> >> > I become VERY concerned, it's not their place to define that. Cable
> >> > shows are a whole NEW slant on covering the news, I'd just as soon say
> >> > that the big names on MSNBC & some on CNN fit the category of
> >> > *entertainers* as well but you know what, I still sit & listen to them
> >> > & *never* dismiss *EVERYTHING* they say, that's just stupid &
> >> > immature. But, to each his own I suppose.
> >>
> >>
> >> yadda yadda yadda.
> >
> > What is this? Are you *dismissing* me?
> >
> >> Beck is not a news source. He's an entertainer. But even if he was a
> >> news source, he'd still be the Hack's ONLY source, and that's very
> >> unhealthy.
> >
> > I seriously doubt you are concerned with a persons *unhealthy* ways, it's
> > a *game* to you playing with people. If one had to say something is
> > unhealthy I suggest you look in the mirror.
>
> He's already labeled you, in his feeble mind, as a Neo-Whatever so now
> dismisses you when you get him to paint himself into a corner. You also
> asked for something a bit specific. I call him "The Incredible Jell-0 man".

Well, I'm done playing the game anymore, not that it was ever a game to
me to begin with.

> Have you ever stuck a fork into Jell-0 and then removed it? Try to find
> the marks the fork left...

Its a shame that when discussing *issues* it has to be a game. I think
what the real *news* advocators fail to see is that these *cable* shows
that they claim is *entertainment* IS what people listen to & FOLLOW.
Even *THIS* administration went out of their way to attack them & a
whole slew of others spend a LOT OF TIME trying to discredit them. They
are VERY influential & people can claim they are NOT real news all they
want, I think without them we'd really be up shits creek with NO eyes &
ears on congress.........Real news does what anymore, nothing but become
*liberal* rags showing favortism.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:04:33 -0500, ByTor wrote:

> In article <pan.2010.01.05.21.45.26.487974(a)e86.GTS>, Trueno(a)e86.GTS
> says...
>>
>> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:29:04 -0500, ByTor wrote:
>>
>> > In article <lpQ0n.16449$0U1.1034(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>> >>
>> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:00230309$0$25222$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> >> > In article <C4Q0n.16447$0U1.9617(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>> >> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:00bf9a7b$0$26797$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> >> >> > In article <VHP0n.16445$0U1.3847(a)newsfe16.iad>,
>> >> >> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:pan.2010.01.05.18.08.04.794200(a)e86.GTS...
>> >> >> >> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:11:19 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>> LOL! You've had your nosed rubbed in it so many times
>> >> >> >> >>> you'll NEVER get
>> >> >> >> >>> the brown out! But, you can keep thinking you're one step
>> >> >> >> >>> ahead, if
>> >> >> >> >>> it
>> >> >> >> >>> makes you feel good.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> And, I'd have another look at who's hallucinating, pal...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> And yet, you had hallucinations regarding news sources in
>> >> >> >> >> this thread.
>> >> >> >> >> There are dozens of news sources which, compared with yours,
>> >> >> >> >> fit the
>> >> >> >> >> "grownup" definition perfectly.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Tell me how you figure this....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Well, let's look at your list of news sources - that should
>> >> >> >> answer your
>> >> >> >> question.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1) Glen Beck
>> >> >> >> 2) None
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Have you ever actually *listened* to Glenn Beck or do you just
>> >> >> > repeat the rest of redundant brain meltdown syndrome nonsense
>> >> >> > other people spout about him?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How many times have you actually watched his show to draw such a
>> >> >> > dismissive conclusion?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Beck is not a news source, so when I want news, why would I listen
>> >> >> to him?
>> >> >> He's an entertainer, like Michael Savage or Dr. Laura. You know
>> >> >> that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you want gardening information, do you visit a store which
>> >> >> sells & services sewing machines?
>> >> >
>> >> > So I take it you're *unwilling* to answer the question because you
>> >> > are *asking* questions, that's okay I understand.
>> >> >
>> >> > I mean really, what is a *news* source anyway Joe. I will not argue
>> >> > the semantics because it's a moot point and I can't compete with
>> >> > your obsession over it. Damn near every outlet of so called *news*
>> >> > is slanted one way or the other so the actual *trust* levels are
>> >> > not there, at least in my eyes. So saying what's real news & what's
>> >> > not is a moot point as well. When an administration, yes the
>> >> > government, comes out & starts defining what's *real* news as
>> >> > opposed to fake news I become VERY concerned, it's not their place
>> >> > to define that. Cable shows are a whole NEW slant on covering the
>> >> > news, I'd just as soon say that the big names on MSNBC & some on
>> >> > CNN fit the category of *entertainers* as well but you know what, I
>> >> > still sit & listen to them & *never* dismiss *EVERYTHING* they say,
>> >> > that's just stupid & immature. But, to each his own I suppose.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> yadda yadda yadda.
>> >
>> > What is this? Are you *dismissing* me?
>> >
>> >> Beck is not a news source. He's an entertainer. But even if he was a
>> >> news source, he'd still be the Hack's ONLY source, and that's very
>> >> unhealthy.
>> >
>> > I seriously doubt you are concerned with a persons *unhealthy* ways,
>> > it's a *game* to you playing with people. If one had to say something
>> > is unhealthy I suggest you look in the mirror.
>>
>> He's already labeled you, in his feeble mind, as a Neo-Whatever so now
>> dismisses you when you get him to paint himself into a corner. You also
>> asked for something a bit specific. I call him "The Incredible Jell-0
>> man".
>
> Well, I'm done playing the game anymore, not that it was ever a game to me
> to begin with.
>
>> Have you ever stuck a fork into Jell-0 and then removed it? Try to find
>> the marks the fork left...
>
> Its a shame that when discussing *issues* it has to be a game. I think
> what the real *news* advocators fail to see is that these *cable* shows
> that they claim is *entertainment* IS what people listen to & FOLLOW. Even
> *THIS* administration went out of their way to attack them & a whole slew
> of others spend a LOT OF TIME trying to discredit them. They are VERY
> influential & people can claim they are NOT real news all they want, I
> think without them we'd really be up shits creek with NO eyes & ears on
> congress.........Real news does what anymore, nothing but become *liberal*
> rags showing favortism.

Well, for YOU and you only, I will tell you my sources. Glenn Beck, yes,
because so far he's hit the nail on the head. I like NBC Nightly News, but
have given up on the cheerleaders on the Today show.

Fox, obviously, but they are Rah Rah Republicans too much.

And, my all time favorite, the BBC. Along with some local newspapers, but
the AP is too much of a cheerleader for Obungler, too.