From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:41:29 -0800, jim beam wrote:

> On 02/23/2010 09:25 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:43:42 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>>>> 8c5a097a99ef(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 7:35 pm, Hachiroku<Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had
>>>>>>> no effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied
>>>>>>> the emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the
>>>>>>> car into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know
>>>>>> 70% of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you
>>>>>> Know its bull for a fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota
>>>>> owners who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he
>>>>> is the world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring
>>>>> his Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>>>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>>>
>>>> Here, one more time for you:
>>>>
>>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had
>>>>>>> no effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied
>>>>>>> the emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the
>>>>>>> car into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>
>>> all under oath...
>>>
>>> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
>>> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.
>>
>> I'm not sure she perjured herself, but I'd bet she should NOT be behind
>> the wheel of a car. ANY car.
>>
>> If you can't handle a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving. As
>> I said, she probably had it in "Sport" and didn't bring it back through
>> the gate into Neutral. That's the only way the car wouldn't stop in
>> neutral.
>>
>> And she must have gotten it stopped SOMEHOW, since she was there to tell
>> the tale.
>
> oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times - there's a
> certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a cadre of
> individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly untrue bullshit
> in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like an amateur.
>
> one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
> taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing was,
> this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor, nor could he
> have been at the facility concerned. it was just theater designed for
> show and to help sway a decision. i guess there's out-of-work actors that
> need money /real/ bad.

Like the time Mike J Fox didn't take his medication for two or three days
so his Parkinson's would be more pronounced.



From: larry moe 'n curly on


Hachiroku wrote:

> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating
> uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped
> on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it
> had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't."
>
> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a
> clue on this one.

She said God miraculously slowed down her car, but why did God make it
speed out of control in the first place?

Also she said she phoned her husband during the incident, which tells
me she's not the brightest bulb (ex-social worker) or calmest hand.

From: larry moe 'n curly on


Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:41:29 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>
> > oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times - there's a
> > certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a cadre of
> > individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly untrue bullshit
> > in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like an amateur.
> >
> > one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
> > taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing was,
> > this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor, nor could he
> > have been at the facility concerned. it was just theater designed for
> > show and to help sway a decision. i guess there's out-of-work actors that
> > need money /real/ bad.
>
> Like the time Mike J Fox didn't take his medication for two or three days
> so his Parkinson's would be more pronounced.

Thus ended Hachi's all-too-short smart streak. Fox wanted to show
what Parkinson's was like, and even when he was on full dosages, such
as when acting, he couldn't completely cover up the involuntary
movements. Stop listening to your hero Rush Limbaugh.

From: Ashton Crusher on
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:10:40 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:41:29 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>
>> On 02/23/2010 09:25 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:43:42 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>>>>> 8c5a097a99ef(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 7:35 pm, Hachiroku<Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had
>>>>>>>> no effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied
>>>>>>>> the emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the
>>>>>>>> car into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know
>>>>>>> 70% of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you
>>>>>>> Know its bull for a fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>>>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>>>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota
>>>>>> owners who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he
>>>>>> is the world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring
>>>>>> his Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>>>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>>>>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, one more time for you:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had
>>>>>>>> no effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied
>>>>>>>> the emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the
>>>>>>>> car into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>
>>>> all under oath...
>>>>
>>>> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
>>>> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure she perjured herself, but I'd bet she should NOT be behind
>>> the wheel of a car. ANY car.
>>>
>>> If you can't handle a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving. As
>>> I said, she probably had it in "Sport" and didn't bring it back through
>>> the gate into Neutral. That's the only way the car wouldn't stop in
>>> neutral.
>>>
>>> And she must have gotten it stopped SOMEHOW, since she was there to tell
>>> the tale.
>>
>> oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times - there's a
>> certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a cadre of
>> individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly untrue bullshit
>> in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like an amateur.
>>
>> one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
>> taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing was,
>> this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor, nor could he
>> have been at the facility concerned. it was just theater designed for
>> show and to help sway a decision. i guess there's out-of-work actors that
>> need money /real/ bad.
>
>Like the time Mike J Fox didn't take his medication for two or three days
>so his Parkinson's would be more pronounced.
>
>

Ah, so you are a dittohead. Explains a lot.
From: Ashton Crusher on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:35:58 -0500, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:

>A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating
>uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped
>on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it
>had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't."
>
>Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a
>clue on this one.
>
>BTW< the car was a Lexus.


And do you know for a fact that the transmission is mechanically
shifted or if it's all electronically controlled? If it is
electronically controlled, do you KNOW that when that model Toyota is
being driven that it can be shifted into neutral?