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From: David Floyd on 17 Sep 2006 20:24 Just a bit of info learned the hard way. I have a 93 pickup 22re, which was replaced due to terminal body cancer by a 92 pickup with the same 22re. Looking ahead, I held onto the 93 as an organ donor. So... I thought a had a head gasket issue. Pulled the head to find a burned exhaust valve on the #3. So, thinking that my foresight finally paid off and I could swap heads until I could have the one with the burned valve revived, I went to work. All went well until I tried to install the head off the parts truck. No dice. Very very similar, but would not slide over the locating pins. Different distance between them (off by maybe 1/16). On closer inspections exhaust ports were a different shape too. Found later that the timing chain guides are a different design as well (92 had shorter reach on bolts). Noticed at least one different casting mark as well-one marked "7," the other "17" on side of head. So... Was there a change in head design between 92&93 or am I looking at something more fishy, i.e. maybe the 92 had the motor swapped before I bought it? Wasted a weekend on this. One more thing... Bought a new timing kit on ebay from engnbldr.com. While I understand the new chain should be tight, I found it to be WAY TIGHT, and one link shorter than the one I removed. i do not have all week to work on this so I used the new sprokets with the old chain. It fits, but when aligned properly there is more slack than I expected on the driver's side (the side without the tensioner). With the guides and tensioner installed there is no danger of it jumping a tooth, but I expected it to be tighter. Any experiences would be helpful before I put the cover back on tomorrow.
From: Mike K on 17 Sep 2006 22:25 I had a similar problem with a 87 pickup, found out the engine was a 84. early 22re motors have a taller deck. the change in deck was in the mid 80's the timing chains were a different length and the chain guides were different to me it seems like the 92 had an early 80's motor or toyota made another change in the 90's Mike "David Floyd" <drhpfloyd(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:170920062024532884%drhpfloyd(a)cox.net... > Just a bit of info learned the hard way. > I have a 93 pickup 22re, which was replaced due to terminal body cancer > by a 92 pickup with the same 22re. > Looking ahead, I held onto the 93 as an organ donor. > So... > I thought a had a head gasket issue. Pulled the head to find a burned > exhaust valve on the #3. > So, thinking that my foresight finally paid off and I could swap heads > until I could have the one with the burned valve revived, I went to > work. > All went well until I tried to install the head off the parts truck. > No dice. Very very similar, but would not slide over the locating > pins. Different distance between them (off by maybe 1/16). On closer > inspections exhaust ports were a different shape too. Found later that > the timing chain guides are a different design as well (92 had shorter > reach on bolts). Noticed at least one different casting mark as > well-one marked "7," the other "17" on side of head. > So... > Was there a change in head design between 92&93 or am I looking at > something more fishy, i.e. maybe the 92 had the motor swapped before I > bought it? > Wasted a weekend on this. > > One more thing... > Bought a new timing kit on ebay from engnbldr.com. While I understand > the new chain should be tight, I found it to be WAY TIGHT, and one link > shorter than the one I removed. i do not have all week to work on this > so I used the new sprokets with the old chain. It fits, but when > aligned properly there is more slack than I expected on the driver's > side (the side without the tensioner). With the guides and tensioner > installed there is no danger of it jumping a tooth, but I expected it > to be tighter. Any experiences would be helpful before I put the cover > back on tomorrow.
From: sidneybek on 24 Sep 2006 20:59 In North America the 22R & 22R-E s are used in the following: 22R 1981-82 Toyota Corona 1981-83 Celica 1981-87 Toyota pickup (up to 1990 on 2wd) 1984-87 Toyota 4-Runner 22R-E (22REC=California emissions=extra charcoal canister) 1983-85 Celica 1985-95 Toyota pickup 1985-95 Toyota 4-Runner 22RTE (Turbo EFI) 1985-87 Toyota 4-Runner 1985-87 Toyota pickup 22R Series tech data: http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/ar119838.htm http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/ar400108.htm http://www.toyotaperformance.com/4_cyl_tech.htm http://www.lcengineering.com/TechNotes/TechNote48.htm http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Information/22r_tech_notes.htm http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/toy_motor.html http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/4_dts.html http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Engine.html http://www.toyota-mods.org/engines.txt http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/engines2.html http://www.engnbldr.com/ToyotaHotlicks.htm http://www.bitwalla.com/cruisers/info/engines.html http://www.off-road.com/tlc/faq/engine.html http://www.jnc.farpost.com/toytech.html http://lcengineering.com/TechNotes.htm http://www.buschtaxi.net/de/01info/motoren.html http://www.landcruiser.hu/motorok.html http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Information/Transmissions.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_transmissions Sidney® ? Repairs tv's,vcr's,home/car audio out of my home E-mail:sidneybek(a)yahoo.com Dartmouth,Nova Scotia Canada 1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise control,sunroof,22R-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,rusted rear step/towing chrome bumper with 251 000 KM
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