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From: Mike on 9 Aug 2010 17:03
Actually if one has round trip commute of only 30 miles a day, they would
never need to buy gas, unlike a hybrid that must use the engine part of the
time. ;)


<nm5k(a)wt.net> wrote in message
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On Aug 9, 11:08 am, Michelle Steiner <miche...(a)michelle.org> wrote:
> In article
> <006c9584-3690-4fdf-bd4b-ab63431a9...(a)l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> n...(a)wt.net wrote:
> > I wouldn't buy one at half price.. The 40 mile wonder.. :/
> > Doesn't go far enough to do me any good..
>
> That's 40 miles on just the initial battery charge; after that, the
> gasoline motor kicks in to recharge the battery, and you'll keep going for
> so long as there is gas in the tank. And when the tank runs low, you
> simply put more gas in it.
>
> It's not like the Nissan Leaf, which is battery only.

It's still fairly useless to me. I'd be running off the gas
engine more than the electric motor.
I'll stick with the dinky gas or diesel cars..


From: Mike on 9 Aug 2010 17:04
Why would the engine seize if it never runs, let alone six months?


"Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message
> <michelle-40096C.09085009082010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.ex
> ample.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> writes
>>That's 40 miles on just the initial battery charge; after that, the
>>gasoline motor kicks in to recharge the battery, and you'll keep going for
>>so long as there is gas in the tank.
> If the engine hasn't run for six months how do you know it hasn't seized
> on you?
> --
> Clive
>


From: nm5k on 9 Aug 2010 18:49
On Aug 9, 4:03 pm, "Mike" <mikehu...(a)lycos.com> wrote:
> Actually if one has round trip commute of only 30 miles a day, they would
> never need to buy gas, unlike a hybrid that must use the engine part of the
> time.   ;)

But.. If they never drive far enough for the battery
charging engine to kick in, they still have to pay for
the electricity to charge the batteries when they are
at home. So how much would they really save?
I guess it depends on the current draw to charge,
electric rates, etc..
There is still no free lunch.
It's just not really a practical vehicle for me in this
large town. I don't commute to an office for work,
and make many trips farther than 40 miles.
IE: it's a 48 mile round trip just to visit my mother in
the nursing home she is in. And I go to Oklahoma
fairly regular as I have my recreational living center
there, and that's a 900 mile round trip. I'd barely be
out of town before the battery charging engine had
to kick in. :/
Also, if I ever had to replace the batteries, I'm sure the
price tag would give me heart palpitations.
Not to mention the electric motors and other parts
that will eventually wear out.
At the quite high increase in initial price vs say my
Corolla, that would pay for a lot of gas. I've heard
those Volts could sell in the 35-40k range..
A brand new Corolla or equal is about 15-20k..
That's 20k to spend for gas..
I actually only paid 10k for my Corolla including
tax, title and license. :/
Thanks, but no thanks on the pricey Volt..




From: Clive on 9 Aug 2010 20:28
In message <j5CdnVazG9LH8P3RnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d(a)ptd.net>, Mike
<mikehunt2(a)lycos.com> writes
>Why would the engine seize if it never runs, let alone six months?
You're not very intelligent, are you? Especially about things
mechanical.
--
Clive

From: Peter Granzeau on 9 Aug 2010 20:41
>"If they want GM to give the car away, they should stop complaining about government ownership."

One might hazard a wager that not a single person who complains of
government owneership also wants GM to give the Volt away.
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