From: mrsteveo on
On Sep 5, 9:23 am, Tegger <teg...(a)tegger.c0m> wrote:
> program...(a)att.net wrote in news:1189008929.646924.253950
> @w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> > much?
>
> Did the repair include the catalytic converter? Then that's your reason.
>
> I think the cat on that car is right up against the exhaust manifold.
>
> --
> Tegger

I'm generally a fan of OEM parts but a $1700 catalytic converter seems
like highway robbery to me. Lithia, the dealer in Medford, Oregon
quoted me $1700 or so to replace the cat with an OEM one.

I thought that was high -- went to a local shop and got one after
parts and labor was around $320. It's yet to let me down in over a
year now and the car passes SMOG like a champ.

So, I would love to know what I am not getting by not going OEM on a
cat but so far, I feel like I saved an arm and a leg and still got a
quality part from what I see.

From: Truckdude on

<programmer(a)att.net> wrote in message
news:1189008929.646924.253950(a)w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> much?
>

Pardon me, but why on Earth is your wife handling car repairs?


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"mrsteveo" <mrsteveo(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189023060.143566.187540(a)o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 5, 9:23 am, Tegger <teg...(a)tegger.c0m> wrote:
>> program...(a)att.net wrote in news:1189008929.646924.253950
>> @w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
>> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
>> > much?
>>
>> Did the repair include the catalytic converter? Then that's your reason.
>>
>> I think the cat on that car is right up against the exhaust manifold.
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>
> I'm generally a fan of OEM parts but a $1700 catalytic converter seems
> like highway robbery to me. Lithia, the dealer in Medford, Oregon
> quoted me $1700 or so to replace the cat with an OEM one.
>
> I thought that was high -- went to a local shop and got one after
> parts and labor was around $320. It's yet to let me down in over a
> year now and the car passes SMOG like a champ.
>
> So, I would love to know what I am not getting by not going OEM on a
> cat but so far, I feel like I saved an arm and a leg and still got a
> quality part from what I see.
>

The following is not a conclusive answer, but only a possible clue:

With older Toyotas, my independent mechanic has told me to go to the dealer
for exhaust work because (at the time), they offered a lifetime warranty on
that type of work. However, I don't recall it being 3 or 5 or 9 times the
price of what my mechanic quoted. More, but not that much more.


From: mrsteveo on
On Sep 5, 1:25 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> "mrsteveo" <mrste...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189023060.143566.187540(a)o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Sep 5, 9:23 am, Tegger <teg...(a)tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >> program...(a)att.net wrote in news:1189008929.646924.253950
> >> @w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> >> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> >> > much?
>
> >> Did the repair include the catalytic converter? Then that's your reason.
>
> >> I think the cat on that car is right up against the exhaust manifold.
>
> >> --
> >> Tegger
>
> > I'm generally a fan of OEM parts but a $1700 catalytic converter seems
> > like highway robbery to me. Lithia, the dealer in Medford, Oregon
> > quoted me $1700 or so to replace the cat with an OEM one.
>
> > I thought that was high -- went to a local shop and got one after
> > parts and labor was around $320. It's yet to let me down in over a
> > year now and the car passes SMOG like a champ.
>
> > So, I would love to know what I am not getting by not going OEM on a
> > cat but so far, I feel like I saved an arm and a leg and still got a
> > quality part from what I see.
>
> The following is not a conclusive answer, but only a possible clue:
>
> With older Toyotas, my independent mechanic has told me to go to the dealer
> for exhaust work because (at the time), they offered a lifetime warranty on
> that type of work. However, I don't recall it being 3 or 5 or 9 times the
> price of what my mechanic quoted. More, but not that much more.

RayO would be the man to know...

I know the cat is covered by certain state/federal regulations however
I don't think the cat itself has a lifetime warranty.

I'm almost sure I have seen RayO say that mufflers for instance when
done at the dealer and it's a Toyota OEM part, it has a lifetime
warranty. Same with struts. I would imagine there are more parts but
someone and/or RayO could go into more specifics for sure.

Even with a lifetime warranty, I don't think I would replace the cat
with an OEM cat for $1700. Just my personal opinion.

From: mrsteveo on
On Sep 5, 1:23 pm, "Truckdude" <sh...(a)thadeecider.com> wrote:
> <program...(a)att.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1189008929.646924.253950(a)w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> > much?
>
> Pardon me, but why on Earth is your wife handling car repairs?

My mother has a good friend who knows vehicles inside and out. She's
not much into the computer aspect the mechanical aspect she knows
quite well. She's done some rebuilds, some overhauls, replacements...
engines, transmissions, etc. Very well rounded woman.

Also, the local Toyota dealer has a woman I went to school with.
Krystal Morgan? I think that's her name. She's an outstanding
technician there and knows her Toyota vehicles very well.

Not *all* women are car idiots...

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