From: Built_Well on

tony pac wrote:

> Being that this car has only 2500 miles on it I was told by my Toyota
> dealer to wait until I have 20,000 miles before switching over to
> synthetic oil,and how does effect my warranty as far as oil
> changes,every 6 months?My dealer only carry's Mobil 1.
========

The Toyota dealer is mistaken, kinda like that nice but confused
Walmart automotive manager who believes 0w-30 doesn't exit ;-)

2,500 miles of break-in is plenty to now switch over to
synthetic in the Corolla.

Synthetic oil is perfectly compatible with your warranty. Lots of
new cars now come with synthetic oil in them from the factory.

However, I would not extend your oil change interval to longer than
6 months while the car is still under warranty. Follow the manual to
stay in warranty.

From: Jeff on
tony pac wrote:
> Being that this car has only 2500 miles on it I was told by my Toyota
> dealer to wait until I have 20,000 miles before switching over to
> synthetic oil,and how does effect my warranty as far as oil
> changes,every 6 months?My dealer only carry's Mobil 1.

Let me get this strait: Your dealer says not to use synthetic motor oil
until you have 20,000 mi on the car, but but only carries synthetic oil?

That doesn't make sense.

Anyway, you can begin using synthetic oils at any time:

http://mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Myths.aspx

Using any motor oil that meets the manufacturer's requirements (and
Mobil 1 does do that), you will not void your warranty.

Jeff

> "Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191603789.034040.72530(a)r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Built_Well wrote:
>>> Tony Pacc wrote:
>>> > I have 2007 corolla,my wife don't put on a lot miles (8000 per
>>> year) I > am
>>> > wondering if it would pay to put in synthetic oil and change it
>>> once a > year.
>>> ========
>>>
>>> I see you seem to be favoring Mobil 1 for your synthetic.
>>> You might want to consider trying Pennzoil Platinum or
>>> Quaker State Q Advance instead.
>>>
>>> Both oils have been beating Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended
>>> Performance in engine wear tests, lately.
>>>
>>> For a little more technical stuff, the Mobil 1 5w-30 has a slightly
>>> higher viscosity of 11.3 centiStokes at engine operating temperature
>>> of 100 C / 212 F. The Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 has a lower viscocity
>>> of 10.5 at that temperature.
>>>
>>> Sure, the 1 centiStoke (cS) difference is virtually nothing, when you
>>> consider that a 10w-30 /synthetic/ oil might have a viscocity of
>>> roughly
>>> 75 at cold startup during spring or early-fall (75 degree F) compared
>>> to a conventional oil's 100 at that same cold startup, a big
>>> difference in viscocity of 25 cS. (Much, much greater difference
>>> during winter
>>> temps., though.)
>>>
>>> The real reason I suggest the Pennzoil and Quaker State
>>> synthetics over Mobil 1 is their better showing lately in
>>> used oil analysis tests. Less iron, lead bearing, chromium,
>>> aluminum, and other engine wear metals are showing up in tests
>>> of the used oil. They're also showing higher TBN figures (the
>>> additives in your oil that help keep it healthy).
>>>
>>> Plus you can get the Quaker State for free right now at
>>> O'Reilly, after mail-in rebate.
>>>
>>> Free oil that is better than Mobil 1. Hard to beat that.
>>>
>>> Mobil 1 just has a huge advertising machine, but they're not
>>> better than the other two mentioned above.
>> ========
>>
>> Oh, and the Pennzoil Platinum and Quaker State may even
>> be a little cheaper than the Mobil 1. (Mobil 1 has
>> a huge advertising budget it has to pay for.)
>>
>
From: tony pac on
No he only carries Mobil 1 ,and regular oil,I only meant that he only caries
Mobil 1 in synthetic oil,but he did say I should wait until I have 20,000
miles before I switch over to synthetic,why I'm not sure
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OecOi.2704$Cd7.1906(a)trnddc03...
> tony pac wrote:
>> Being that this car has only 2500 miles on it I was told by my Toyota
>> dealer to wait until I have 20,000 miles before switching over to
>> synthetic oil,and how does effect my warranty as far as oil changes,every
>> 6 months?My dealer only carry's Mobil 1.
>
> Let me get this strait: Your dealer says not to use synthetic motor oil
> until you have 20,000 mi on the car, but but only carries synthetic oil?
>
> That doesn't make sense.
>
> Anyway, you can begin using synthetic oils at any time:
>
> http://mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Myths.aspx
>
> Using any motor oil that meets the manufacturer's requirements (and Mobil
> 1 does do that), you will not void your warranty.
>
> Jeff
>
>> "Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1191603789.034040.72530(a)r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>> Built_Well wrote:
>>>> Tony Pacc wrote:
>>>> > I have 2007 corolla,my wife don't put on a lot miles (8000 per
>>>> year) I > am
>>>> > wondering if it would pay to put in synthetic oil and change it
>>>> once a > year.
>>>> ========
>>>>
>>>> I see you seem to be favoring Mobil 1 for your synthetic.
>>>> You might want to consider trying Pennzoil Platinum or
>>>> Quaker State Q Advance instead.
>>>>
>>>> Both oils have been beating Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended
>>>> Performance in engine wear tests, lately.
>>>>
>>>> For a little more technical stuff, the Mobil 1 5w-30 has a slightly
>>>> higher viscosity of 11.3 centiStokes at engine operating temperature
>>>> of 100 C / 212 F. The Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 has a lower viscocity
>>>> of 10.5 at that temperature.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, the 1 centiStoke (cS) difference is virtually nothing, when you
>>>> consider that a 10w-30 /synthetic/ oil might have a viscocity of
>>>> roughly
>>>> 75 at cold startup during spring or early-fall (75 degree F) compared
>>>> to a conventional oil's 100 at that same cold startup, a big
>>>> difference in viscocity of 25 cS. (Much, much greater difference
>>>> during winter
>>>> temps., though.)
>>>>
>>>> The real reason I suggest the Pennzoil and Quaker State
>>>> synthetics over Mobil 1 is their better showing lately in
>>>> used oil analysis tests. Less iron, lead bearing, chromium,
>>>> aluminum, and other engine wear metals are showing up in tests
>>>> of the used oil. They're also showing higher TBN figures (the
>>>> additives in your oil that help keep it healthy).
>>>>
>>>> Plus you can get the Quaker State for free right now at
>>>> O'Reilly, after mail-in rebate.
>>>>
>>>> Free oil that is better than Mobil 1. Hard to beat that.
>>>>
>>>> Mobil 1 just has a huge advertising machine, but they're not
>>>> better than the other two mentioned above.
>>> ========
>>>
>>> Oh, and the Pennzoil Platinum and Quaker State may even
>>> be a little cheaper than the Mobil 1. (Mobil 1 has
>>> a huge advertising budget it has to pay for.)
>>>
>>

From: Jeff on
tony pac wrote:
> No he only carries Mobil 1 ,and regular oil,I only meant that he only
> caries Mobil 1 in synthetic oil,but he did say I should wait until I
> have 20,000 miles before I switch over to synthetic,why I'm not sure

It's hard to tell what you're talking about, because you're top-posting.
Please in-line post, so that people can follow the thread easily.

His comments are probably based on out-of-date beliefs based on
synthetic oils that were not as good as those available today.

A lot of new cars come with synthetic oil in the crankcase.

> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OecOi.2704$Cd7.1906(a)trnddc03...
>> tony pac wrote:
>>> Being that this car has only 2500 miles on it I was told by my Toyota
>>> dealer to wait until I have 20,000 miles before switching over to
>>> synthetic oil,and how does effect my warranty as far as oil
>>> changes,every 6 months?My dealer only carry's Mobil 1.
>>
>> Let me get this strait: Your dealer says not to use synthetic motor
>> oil until you have 20,000 mi on the car, but but only carries
>> synthetic oil?
>>
>> That doesn't make sense.
>>
>> Anyway, you can begin using synthetic oils at any time:
>>
>> http://mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Myths.aspx
>>
>> Using any motor oil that meets the manufacturer's requirements (and
>> Mobil 1 does do that), you will not void your warranty.
>>
>> Jeff

<...>

Jeff
From: Ray O on

"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47094ff4$0$90427$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
>
> tony pac wrote:
>
> > Being that this car has only 2500 miles on it I was told by my Toyota
> > dealer to wait until I have 20,000 miles before switching over to
> > synthetic oil,and how does effect my warranty as far as oil
> > changes,every 6 months?My dealer only carry's Mobil 1.
> ========
>
> The Toyota dealer is mistaken, kinda like that nice but confused
> Walmart automotive manager who believes 0w-30 doesn't exit ;-)
>
> 2,500 miles of break-in is plenty to now switch over to
> synthetic in the Corolla.
>

This information is contrary to Toyota's advice. Toyota recommends waiting
until the first recommended oil change interval before switching to
synthetic.


--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


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