feeling dissapointmed with Boch Toyota, Norwood MA
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From: surf on 19 Mar 2007 04:35 On Mar 18, 10:35 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote: > Falmouth Toyota in Bourne used to be the highest rated dealership in the > country for customer satisfaction, and I see from their web site that it is > still owned by the same dealer. I don't know if they are still the highest > rated, but knowing the owner, they will not rip off their customers or > mistreat them, and they come by their high customer satisfaction scores by > actually trying to satisfy their customers. > > Hyannis Toyota is owned by one of my former co-workers, and he operates the > same way as the dealer in Falmouth because he is honest by nature. > > You may be able to negotiate a better deal elsewhere if you're willing to > put up with all the shenanigans, but if you want a fair deal without > loopholes, you won't go wrong at these places. There are several other very > good dealerships, but those two rise to the top in the honesty department. > -- > You're saying that the dealers who are deceptive and lie to you might give you a better deal it seems like. I'm not sure why that would be, but there is alot of money involved and I am probably too afraid to risk that.
From: surf on 19 Mar 2007 04:55 > and yes, you have to read those print ads very carefully... Here's > some from the Boston Globe for some Mazdas (a $21k car for $9.5k!):http://www.mouseprint.org/?p=109 > A dealer will list every available discount/rebate (even if someone > wouldn't be able to get all of them), and then also lists an expected > large cash down payment or trade in, and subtract these from the price > of the car to advertise the car as available at some really cheap > price. I've seen the ads you refer to and this one was not presented in that way at all. People in this thread seem to assume the ad had fine print that reflected what the saleman in the showroom told me on the price. He added many charges that where not in the fine print, though I did not check all that until after I got home. He just through around the term "fine print" as part of his gimmickry. The ad itself was way at the top of the page with many other ads and there was some fine print way down at the bottom; however what makes all that irrelevant is that on my first call to the dealership I made it clear that I wanted to buy the car at the price listed. After I said that, the only additional charge mentioned to me was the $400 associated with the recent college graduate or lack thereof. The guy on the phone also said there was 40 of these cars available and that if I arrived there by noon I would have no problem getting the car. He acted friendly on the phone and gave me the impression I could get the car at about $10,400. I arrived about an hour after I hung up the phone at 9:30 and was told there where none of those cars available and that the 40 cars mentioned where just corollas and not 40 corlollas associated with that price. Not only was the printed ad deceptive where it said 40 corollas available right under the 2007 corlolla at $9988, but the guy on the phone further perpetuated that deception verbally. I feel that what they did was wrong and I had a lousy feeling about it that kind of left a bad taste in my mouth and overshadowed my whole weekend. I haven't even been in the mood to look at any cars anywhere since his happened and will probably need another week or so before I feel like looking at cars. I still may complain to the attourney general.
From: EskWIRED on 19 Mar 2007 07:06 In ne.general surf <surfunbear(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I don't want to go through a big > hassle and a bunch of games to get a car. Then you have limited choices: Go to any dealer and pay too much. Buy a Saturn or other fixed price car. Respond to a sale ad, and read all the fine print. There exist excellent books, written by former car salesmen, describing the game, and telling you how to win it. It is a stupid hassle, but if you do it correctly, you can save thousands of dollars for about 4 hours of game playing. -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -- Bertrand Russel
From: EskWIRED on 19 Mar 2007 07:10 In ne.general Hachiroku ハチロク <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote: > After having a salesman shout across the room for the ADMU on a '91 MR2, I > told him, That wasn't necessary...I don't PAY ADMUs. I'll go the sticker. > He said, OK... Wow. Full price. I'd buy a different car. -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -- Bertrand Russel
From: EskWIRED on 19 Mar 2007 07:17
In ne.general mack <mackerel(a)dslextreme.com> wrote: > Visiting a dealer is like playing three card monte or a shell game with a > streetcorner "gambler"....there's no winning involved. If you know how they play the game, and if you know what sort of customer behaviour gets a good price, you can win. I got my Honda CRV used for around $2,000 less than Kelly Blue Book, as a Certified Used Car, with an extended warranty and a new CD player. It takes a stupid hassle and the proper technique. I am unaware of any shortcuts. -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -- Bertrand Russel |