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From: Ray O on 19 Jun 2010 18:45

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>> "jake" <jake.pinneberg(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:962d74b2-d573-4a55-bc71-ac2c5c0a659e(a)z15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>> It's just a small star-shaped glass fracture presently.
>>> I'd like to keep it from expanding. Any recommendations?
>>> (Permatex products don't get rave reviews on Amazon.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jake
>>
>>
>> As Jeff Strickland and Ron mentioned, glass shops use a process that
>> yields good results. The resin that they use is cured with UV light.
>>
>> Some insurance companies will wave the deductible for this repair since
>> the repair is less costly than a windshield replacement.
>> --
>>
>
> There's a catch to waving the deductable, Ray. My insurance guy (Auto
> Club) said there is a scam where glass shops are making claims for chips
> on cars that have not come in for repairs.
>
> I don't know the details, exactly, but I _think_ the scam goes sorta like
> this ...
>
> I bring my car in with a chip and the carrier pays the repair.
> The glass shop keeps my information.
> After a few months, the glass shop makes a second claim. Then a third, and
> so on. Multiple cars and multiple claims could provide significant bogus
> costs paid by the carriers.
>
> Another scenario is a claimant and a glass shop working together to make a
> claim for a chip that does not exist and splitting the claim payment.
>
>
> The bottom line is that fixing a chip is so cheap that the insurance
> companies might not cover it anymore thanks to unscrupulous shops making
> bogus claims.
>

I hadn't heard of that scam. I guess the solution is to stick to a
reputable glass or body shop.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Jeff Strickland on 20 Jun 2010 11:25

"Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hvirss$vli$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
>> news:hviqve$s00$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "jake" <jake.pinneberg(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:962d74b2-d573-4a55-bc71-ac2c5c0a659e(a)z15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>>> It's just a small star-shaped glass fracture presently.
>>>> I'd like to keep it from expanding. Any recommendations?
>>>> (Permatex products don't get rave reviews on Amazon.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jake
>>>
>>>
>>> As Jeff Strickland and Ron mentioned, glass shops use a process that
>>> yields good results. The resin that they use is cured with UV light.
>>>
>>> Some insurance companies will wave the deductible for this repair since
>>> the repair is less costly than a windshield replacement.
>>> --
>>>
>>
>> There's a catch to waving the deductable, Ray. My insurance guy (Auto
>> Club) said there is a scam where glass shops are making claims for chips
>> on cars that have not come in for repairs.
>>
>> I don't know the details, exactly, but I _think_ the scam goes sorta like
>> this ...
>>
>> I bring my car in with a chip and the carrier pays the repair.
>> The glass shop keeps my information.
>> After a few months, the glass shop makes a second claim. Then a third,
>> and so on. Multiple cars and multiple claims could provide significant
>> bogus costs paid by the carriers.
>>
>> Another scenario is a claimant and a glass shop working together to make
>> a claim for a chip that does not exist and splitting the claim payment.
>>
>>
>> The bottom line is that fixing a chip is so cheap that the insurance
>> companies might not cover it anymore thanks to unscrupulous shops making
>> bogus claims.
>>
>
> I hadn't heard of that scam. I guess the solution is to stick to a
> reputable glass or body shop.
> --


The insurance comapny solves the scam by not waiving the deductable for a
chip. I suppose the waiving is decided by the company. I just paid the tab
for the chip repair and moved on.






From: larry moe 'n curly on 20 Jun 2010 13:39


jake wrote:
>
> It's just a small star-shaped glass fracture presently.
> I'd like to keep it from expanding. Any recommendations?
> (Permatex products don't get rave reviews on Amazon.)

The Permatex kits I've seen were only for bull's eye cracks, but a
long time ago, a friend of mine had good luck with a kit claimed to
fix star fractures. Instead of UV-cure resin, it used 2-part epoxy
(resin and hardener not 1:1 ratio) and required the syringe plunger be
manipulated in very specific ways (push down and pull up quickly, push
down and hold for several minutes, pull up and hold, etc.) over a
period of an hour, to work the resin all the way in and eliminate air
bubbles.

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