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From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 6 Jul 2010 11:09 OK, let's leave the Christians alone for a while (while they are busy praying and making money) and face another problem... What are going to do with the cook? How about all those contractors who make a living out of the Prison Industry? It ain't easy, you know... Re: What would happen if we legalized drugs? We have to keep in mind that whether or not we "should" legalize what are currently classified as "illegal drugs", we (through our government) have made the decision that we should spend a certain percentage of our tax revenues on law enforcement and prisons. With only 300M of the worlds ~6-7 billion people, we have over 1/2 of the world's incarcerated population. The infrastructure and personnel needed to process all of these people (start with police, judges, DAs, private attorneys, COOKS, laundry services, energy resources and so on and so on) adds up to a huge amount of money--money which someone out there is perfectly happy to earn. Were we to stop our prosecution of the "war on drugs" think of all the people who would be out of jobs. A few murders here and there and often in foreign countries do not weigh on the mind of the body politic in the same way that unemployment does especially in our current economic climate. I'd propose that a more focused question would be of the form: "Were we to legalize drugs, in what manner would we redistribute the infrastructure and personnel currently utilized to enforce our drug laws?" It's fine to say that the drugs would become a taxable item, but how do you filter the generated tax income to the police officer/ judge/prison COOK who has now become redundant and thus, unemployed? Not saying it's "right" that they are employed, just acknowledging that our penal system does exist, does employ people and does consume resources--all of which contributes back into the system from which it was originally taken in the form of taxes. http://hypography.com/forums/political-sciences/19349-what-would-happen-if-we-legalized.html ----------------------------------------------- THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS "Never become an enemy of the cook!" http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE (safe alternative to drugs?)
From: Mike Hunter on 6 Jul 2010 11:24 We are were we are with drugs, the same place we were in 1932, with alcohol. Judges, Cops and politicians on the take as well as murders, robberies etc., for druggies to get money for drugs. We could eliminate all of that, as well as the importation of drugs through Mexico, buy taking the profit out of drugs by legalizing and taxing drugs by the federal, state and local governments as we do with alcohol today. "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3e315871-d501-4b17-8a08-fa27e9e15f93(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... > OK, let's leave the Christians alone for a while (while they are busy > praying and making money) and face another problem... What are going > to do with the cook? How about all those contractors who make a living > out of the Prison Industry? It ain't easy, you know... > > Re: What would happen if we legalized drugs? > > We have to keep in mind that whether or not we "should" legalize what > are currently classified as "illegal drugs", we (through our > government) have made the decision that we should spend a certain > percentage of our tax revenues on law enforcement and prisons. With > only 300M of the worlds ~6-7 billion people, we have over 1/2 of the > world's incarcerated population. The infrastructure and personnel > needed to process all of these people (start with police, judges, DAs, > private attorneys, COOKS, laundry services, energy resources and so on > and so on) adds up to a huge amount of money--money which someone out > there is perfectly happy to earn. Were we to stop our prosecution of > the "war on drugs" think of all the people who would be out of jobs. A > few murders here and there and often in foreign countries do not weigh > on the mind of the body politic in the same way that unemployment does > especially in our current economic climate. > > I'd propose that a more focused question would be of the form: "Were > we to legalize drugs, in what manner would we redistribute the > infrastructure and personnel currently utilized to enforce our drug > laws?" It's fine to say that the drugs would become a taxable item, > but how do you filter the generated tax income to the police officer/ > judge/prison COOK who has now become redundant and thus, unemployed? > Not saying it's "right" that they are employed, just acknowledging > that our penal system does exist, does employ people and does consume > resources--all of which contributes back into the system from which it > was originally taken in the form of taxes. > > http://hypography.com/forums/political-sciences/19349-what-would-happen-if-we-legalized.html > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS > > "Never become an enemy of the cook!" > > http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE (safe alternative to > drugs?)
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 6 Jul 2010 18:23 On Jul 6, 1:36 pm, B Sellers <bl...(a)sfo.com> wrote: > >http://hypography.com/forums/political-sciences/19349-what-would-happ... > > Well the Monkey raised good points. > I came up with a few ideas. I am nothing if not an idea person. Sadly > that is all > I am by and large at this time of my life. > > The DEA agents can be re-purposed to Homeland Security functions and > Customs. > That should take very little time to retrain. > The prison guards are harder but I proposed retraining as Physical > Education Teachers and the money saved from the closing of extra prisons > can be put to use > re-instituting the requirment of Physical Education for all grades > through the 12th.. > Prison guards would be right up there with my 1940s and 1950s PE > teachers and I > cannot imagine why I didn't think of them earlier but I really hate to > think much > about my PE periods. I only did well at falling down. > > The prison cooks can be further educated and produce healthy meals in > the School > Cafeterias. That too would be inline with my elementary school > experience. To save money I brown bagged it after that. > > later > bliss The cook was the hardest to relocate. Everybody else can be used on providing security from crime and terrorism. PE trainers though are really important jobs to keep the young people busy on something else other than drugs and crime. Then we issue a hammock to whoever is left jobless.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 6 Jul 2010 18:36
On Jul 6, 5:07 pm, B Sellers <bl...(a)sfo.com> wrote: > On 07/06/2010 01:24 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, > > > PE trainers though are really important jobs to keep the young people > > busy on something else other than drugs and crime. > > Yes the PE teachers and requirements are very important and > needed a witness the epidemic of youth obesity. > I don't even like PE for my own experiences but without it being > a requirement in schools the kids have gotten sloppily fat. The > proper education of children almost demands PE and it along with > other needed programs like art and music have been dropped in > order that dopers can be locked up. Riding a bicycle could do the job of a PE trainer, but we want a job for him, right? > > > > > Then we issue a hammock to whoever is left jobless. > > You may issue a hammock but in the USA most places we > need a lot more than a system to ruin our backs, You need > something to hook the hammock to when you want to sleep > and I doubt that parking meter standards are up to the stress. > > Then we need facilities for nutrition and excretion and in > most of the USA for a substantial portion of each year we need > shelter from the heat of Summer and the cold of Winter and in > Alaska the Winter is most of the year. > > later > bliss Then we need igloos for Alaska, and Hammocks for the summer in the Lower 49. The point is that we plant a lot of trees and consume as little energy as possible, short of riding a bike, which is nearly impossible under the current lawless conditions on the roads. |