From: Realto Margarino on
"Wickeddoll?" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958(a)yahoo.com> says:
>"Realto Margarino" <...

>It must be much lighter than my Echo (Yaris in Europe was the Echo
>prototype, for those who don't know).

>I bought my 2000 Echo in Vermont, and lived in New Hampshire at the
>time - that car made it through horrible snow many times, without
>(unexpected)incident. Guess they spared the weight on the
>U.S./Canadian Yaris. Did you drive a very large vehicle right
>before your Yaris?

Part of the problem is the small, 14 inch wheels. Part of the
problem is the so-called "All-weather" tires. And part of the
problem is the weight. Years ago we had a Honda Civic, when they
were smaller than today, and it was much better in snow.

But to answer your question, the last vehicle we drove regularly was
a Chev Impala.

cordially, as always,

rm
From: Mr4701 on

"Realto Margarino" <rm(a)justlinux.ca> wrote in message
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> Mr4701 <NoExists(a)earth.net> says:
>
>>You bought a Toyota Yaris to use in Ontario Canada? That was your
>>first mistake. I own one and it works like a charm here in Dallas.
>>Of course, we have frozen precip once a year... You picked the
>>wrong place. A Ford Escape Hybrid would have been a better option
>>for a place where it snows as much.
>
> Right. We're going to have to cancel our annual snow-skiing holiday
> next July unless we get a new car by then.

You could always ride your bike in Fall and Winter?


From: sharx35 on

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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> ACAR wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 16, 5:44 am, "Michael Golden" <mgol...(a)bkbusa.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember, the snow tires go on the front, not the back. 8)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> oversteer anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no reputable tire store would put 2 winter tires onto the front of a
>>>>>> FWD vehicle.
>>>>>> they'd have you buy 4 tires.
>>>>> And what if you only had money for two tires or were unwilling to buy
>>>>> four?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mixed tire types can ****SOMETIMES**** cause a car to act in ways that
>>>> ****SOME**** drivers are not equipped to deal with. Find a way to
>>>> afford four.
>>>
>>> I am glad you have extra money. In real life, not everyone does.
>>> Unfortunately, the way some people find extra money is to not eat for a
>>> while.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> I understand that. I was that away a few years ago right after my
>> divorce. Some people also don't think ahead months or years for the
>> things they know they'll need to buy. The OP is not in this situation,
>> though.
> And then some people can't seem to think ahead more than an hour or two.
> This is what keeps 7-11 stores in business. If you have the ability to
> think ahead (to the next payday, next rent payment, etc.) you won't be
> running out of milk, bread or cigarettes at 10:30 PM and having to go to a
> convenience store and paying a premium for your lack of planning ahead.
> It's a classic sign of those who need public assistance.
> I might add that these are also the people who drive to the post office in
> their bathrobes to mail in their tax returns at 11 PM on April 15th.
> They seem to always be a day late and a dollar short.

Excellent post. Why ANYONE shop at Macks or 7-11 boggles the mind--their
prices are almost ALWAYS way, way too high.



>
>


From: sharx35 on

"Wickeddoll´┐Ż" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>> "Michael Golden"in message
> ..
>>> Realto Margarino wrote:
>>>
>>>> In forty years of driving we have never driven a car that is as bad
>>>> in the snow as our 2006 Yaris Hatchback. We went out and bought
>>>> snow tires today, hopefully that will help. But the dealership told
>>>> us not to use rims larger than 14 inches for the 2006 hatchback.
>>>> That sucks.
>>>>
>>>> The car is too light, and too close to the ground, to be a wise
>>>> choice for the country roads in Ontario, at least this year...
>>>>
>>>> cordially, as always,
>>>>
>>>> rm
>>>
>>> Remember, the snow tires go on the front, not the back. 8)
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> You don't mix tire types unless you're stupid, especially in areas where
>> snow is a constant issue. You buy 4 tires. End of story.
>>
>
> We did fine with all-season radials.
>
> Natalie

Likewise, up here in subArctic Canada. As long as one doesn't need to drive
through ditches, up steep driveways or rarely used country roads, all-season
radials are adequate. A lot of people become over confident with snow tires,
figuring they can do ANYTHING.




>
>


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Mr4701" <NoExists(a)Earth.net> wrote in message
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> "Realto Margarino" <rm(a)justlinux.ca> wrote in message
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>> Mr4701 <NoExists(a)earth.net> says:
>>
>>>You bought a Toyota Yaris to use in Ontario Canada? That was your
>>>first mistake. I own one and it works like a charm here in Dallas.
>>>Of course, we have frozen precip once a year... You picked the
>>>wrong place. A Ford Escape Hybrid would have been a better option
>>>for a place where it snows as much.
>>
>> Right. We're going to have to cancel our annual snow-skiing holiday
>> next July unless we get a new car by then.
>
> You could always ride your bike in Fall and Winter?
>


He may live in a place where biking is suicidal.