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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Aug 2010 16:56 Hello...hello... T of G changed owners a few years ago, and the last service manager left. He knew that my Mom's Camry had a complete exhaust replaced, but all the new SM can find is two muffler replacements. I thought (1986 Camry) this was a one piece assy....? Is there any way to trace what has been replaced on this car? I know Honda has a central computer system, and you can bring any Honda into any dealer in North America and find out what has been done to the car since it got in the country, but I don't think Toyota has any such system.
From: Ray O on 13 Aug 2010 00:38 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:KdZ8o.55971$Zp1.24064(a)newsfe15.iad... > Hello...hello... > > T of G changed owners a few years ago, and the last service manager left. > He knew that my Mom's Camry had a complete exhaust replaced, but all the > new SM can find is two muffler replacements. > > I thought (1986 Camry) this was a one piece assy....? > > Is there any way to trace what has been replaced on this car? I know Honda > has a central computer system, and you can bring any Honda into any dealer > in North America and find out what has been done to the car since it got > in the country, but I don't think Toyota has any such system. > > Sorry, I don't remember when the Camry went to a one piece assembly but I think it was when they started using stainless steel for the exhaust. Toyota did not have a central computer system, and dealers could use various systems such as EDS, Reynolds & Reynolds, etc. T of G was a rather late adapter of computerized repair orders. That has probably changed now, but it definitely was not the case in the 1980's or even early 1990's. Is there a copy of the receipt in the glove box? -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Aug 2010 01:13 On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:38:28 -0500, Ray O wrote: > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:KdZ8o.55971$Zp1.24064(a)newsfe15.iad... >> Hello...hello... >> >> T of G changed owners a few years ago, and the last service manager left. >> He knew that my Mom's Camry had a complete exhaust replaced, but all the >> new SM can find is two muffler replacements. >> >> I thought (1986 Camry) this was a one piece assy....? >> >> Is there any way to trace what has been replaced on this car? I know Honda >> has a central computer system, and you can bring any Honda into any dealer >> in North America and find out what has been done to the car since it got >> in the country, but I don't think Toyota has any such system. >> >> > Sorry, I don't remember when the Camry went to a one piece assembly but I > think it was when they started using stainless steel for the exhaust. > > Toyota did not have a central computer system, and dealers could use various > systems such as EDS, Reynolds & Reynolds, etc. T of G was a rather late > adapter of computerized repair orders. > > That has probably changed now, but it definitely was not the case in the > 1980's or even early 1990's. > > Is there a copy of the receipt in the glove box? That was my first thought! No, there's about 12 registrations (except for the current one, of course!) and a flyer from about 10 years ago from the Polish church... My stepfather kept impeccable records (the original Bill of Sale and the window sticker are there) but the exhaust was replaced after he passed away.
From: Ray O on 13 Aug 2010 01:17 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:mw49o.59095$dx7.21503(a)newsfe21.iad... > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:38:28 -0500, Ray O wrote: > >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:KdZ8o.55971$Zp1.24064(a)newsfe15.iad... >>> Hello...hello... >>> >>> T of G changed owners a few years ago, and the last service manager >>> left. >>> He knew that my Mom's Camry had a complete exhaust replaced, but all the >>> new SM can find is two muffler replacements. >>> >>> I thought (1986 Camry) this was a one piece assy....? >>> >>> Is there any way to trace what has been replaced on this car? I know >>> Honda >>> has a central computer system, and you can bring any Honda into any >>> dealer >>> in North America and find out what has been done to the car since it got >>> in the country, but I don't think Toyota has any such system. >>> >>> >> Sorry, I don't remember when the Camry went to a one piece assembly but I >> think it was when they started using stainless steel for the exhaust. >> >> Toyota did not have a central computer system, and dealers could use >> various >> systems such as EDS, Reynolds & Reynolds, etc. T of G was a rather late >> adapter of computerized repair orders. >> >> That has probably changed now, but it definitely was not the case in the >> 1980's or even early 1990's. >> >> Is there a copy of the receipt in the glove box? > > That was my first thought! No, there's about 12 registrations (except for > the current one, of course!) and a flyer from about 10 years ago from the > Polish church... > > > My stepfather kept impeccable records (the original Bill of Sale and the > window sticker are there) but the exhaust was replaced after he passed > away. > > OK, look for the burnt remnants of a sticker somewhere on the exhaust pipe - the original exhaust did not have any stickers, but replacement parts had part number stickers that were usually left on, or even if the sticker was peeled off, the glue remained, leaving a square mark on the pipe. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Aug 2010 01:51 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 00:17:37 -0500, Ray O wrote: > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:mw49o.59095$dx7.21503(a)newsfe21.iad... >> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:38:28 -0500, Ray O wrote: >> >>> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:KdZ8o.55971$Zp1.24064(a)newsfe15.iad... >>>> Hello...hello... >>>> >>>> T of G changed owners a few years ago, and the last service manager >>>> left. >>>> He knew that my Mom's Camry had a complete exhaust replaced, but all the >>>> new SM can find is two muffler replacements. >>>> >>>> I thought (1986 Camry) this was a one piece assy....? >>>> >>>> Is there any way to trace what has been replaced on this car? I know >>>> Honda >>>> has a central computer system, and you can bring any Honda into any >>>> dealer >>>> in North America and find out what has been done to the car since it got >>>> in the country, but I don't think Toyota has any such system. >>>> >>>> >>> Sorry, I don't remember when the Camry went to a one piece assembly but I >>> think it was when they started using stainless steel for the exhaust. >>> >>> Toyota did not have a central computer system, and dealers could use >>> various >>> systems such as EDS, Reynolds & Reynolds, etc. T of G was a rather late >>> adapter of computerized repair orders. >>> >>> That has probably changed now, but it definitely was not the case in the >>> 1980's or even early 1990's. >>> >>> Is there a copy of the receipt in the glove box? >> >> That was my first thought! No, there's about 12 registrations (except for >> the current one, of course!) and a flyer from about 10 years ago from the >> Polish church... >> >> >> My stepfather kept impeccable records (the original Bill of Sale and the >> window sticker are there) but the exhaust was replaced after he passed >> away. >> >> > OK, look for the burnt remnants of a sticker somewhere on the exhaust pipe - > the original exhaust did not have any stickers, but replacement parts had > part number stickers that were usually left on, or even if the sticker was > peeled off, the glue remained, leaving a square mark on the pipe. OK. I hope I'm not going to have to get into an arguement with a Factory Rep! ;) Toyota is not as 'customer minded' as they used to be in the 'good old days'. I blew a diff in my '74 Corolla at 15,000 miles and the rep said, "Fix it". Now it seems Toyota tries to run from fixing things. BTW, see a post in r.a.t about Scion tCs. I mentioned the head bolt issue in the early 2.4L engines. I will be expecting a fight over that for sure.
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