From: 80 Knight on
"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)> wrote in message
> Someone that purchases a Toyota or Honda is more likely to be more highly
> educated and higher income, and will maintain their vehicles better...

What drugs were you on when you wrote that?

From: N8N on
On Oct 28, 2:09 pm, klu...(a) (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> N8N  <njna...(a)> wrote:
> >If it's a US-centric list, that makes sense, since neither was sold
> >here.
> It's a Canadian list.  That's why it doesn't have Yugo on it.
> However, Peugeot, Renault, and Fiat all sold cars in the US for a while.
> You don't see a lot of them on the road today for reasons that will be
> immediately apparent if you ever drive one.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Not in the last 20 years, I don't think. Last one to leave was
Renault I believe in something like '87 or '88?

From: hls on

"N8N" <njnagel(a)> wrote in message news:c044e792-495c-4cc4-

Not in the last 20 years, I don't think. Last one to leave was
Renault I believe in something like '87 or '88?

It has been a while, for sure. I have driven Renault and Peugeot in Europe
in recent years and they were surprisingly powerful and smooth. I believe
they are far better than the cars of years ago which were brought here
without a proper service and distribution network.

Fiat is likely to be still Fiat.

From: clare on
On 28 Oct 2009 10:48:53 -0400, kludge(a) (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>SMS <scharf.steven(a)> wrote:
>> 1. Lexus
>> 2. Mercedes
>> 3. Saturn
>> 4. Infiniti
>> 5. Acura
>> 6. BMW
>> 7. Volvo
>> 8. Cadillac
>> 9. Jaguar
>>10. Lincoln
>>11. Toyota
>>12. Honda
>>13. Mazda
>>14. Saab
>>15. Buick
>>16. Volkswagen
>>17. Chrysler
>>18. Nissan
>>---Industry Average---
>>19. Oldsmobile
>>20. Subaru
>>21. Chevrolet
>>22. Ford
>>23. Pontiac
>>24. Audi
>>25. Mercury
>>26. Eagle
>>27. Dodge
>>28. Suzuki
>>29. Plymouth
>>30. Isuzu
>>31. Hyundai
>>32. Lada
>>They warn that this data needs to interpreted correctly. Owners of older
>>expensive luxury cars are more likely to repair their vehicle than junk
>>it. Vehicles sold in large numbers into rental fleets rack up a lot of
>>miles and have shorter life in years, but not necessarily in miles. Some
>>vehicles in the list didn't exist 20 years prior to the study so there
>>were no vehicles 16-20 years old, only vehicles 11-15 years old (this
>>explains the anomaly of Saturn).
>I would just like to point out that Fiat is not even ON this list, that
>it is farther down in the order than Lada. There is some justice in this
When was Fiat last sold in America. 1988? for Canada. So no Fiats
less than 20 years old.
From: Tegger on
Roger Blake <rogblake10(a)> wrote in

> (A car can be kept going pretty much
> indefinitely if one is sufficiently determined.)

And if the climate cooperates.

Up here in the Rust Belt it is very very very difficult to keep Mother
Nature from trying to reclaim a daily-driver-car's body. Impossible,