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From: Jeff Strickland on 6 Nov 2009 19:12 "Mark" <bogusmailmark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:0fbc693a-3adb-4bf1-9394-c8a6a62f2e3b(a)k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > How's that Hope and Change workin' for ya, Stupid Dim Obama-bots? > Still drinking the Kool-Aid or have you had enough? Obama. Isn't he the guy that said without the stimulus, unemployment would hit 8%? Maybe we coulda saved some money and some jobs WITHOUT the stimulus.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 6 Nov 2009 23:03 On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:12:11 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote: > > "Mark" <bogusmailmark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:0fbc693a-3adb-4bf1-9394-c8a6a62f2e3b(a)k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> How's that Hope and Change workin' for ya, Stupid Dim Obama-bots? Still >> drinking the Kool-Aid or have you had enough? > > Obama. Isn't he the guy that said without the stimulus, unemployment would > hit 8%? Maybe we coulda saved some money and some jobs WITHOUT the > stimulus. More than likely...
From: dr_jeff on 7 Nov 2009 07:19 Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:12:11 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote: > >> "Mark" <bogusmailmark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:0fbc693a-3adb-4bf1-9394-c8a6a62f2e3b(a)k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>> How's that Hope and Change workin' for ya, Stupid Dim Obama-bots? Still >>> drinking the Kool-Aid or have you had enough? >> Obama. Isn't he the guy that said without the stimulus, unemployment would >> hit 8%? Maybe we coulda saved some money and some jobs WITHOUT the >> stimulus. > > More than likely... That's a stupid argument. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. Of course, we could never have known how high unemployment would be without the stimulus. But the stimulus resulted in many jobs being saved in schools and other government departments, more construction and other jobs and more scientists studying diseases. Clearly the early figures were inaccurate. However, without the stimulus plan, we would be in even deeper doo-doo. Btw, the real unemployment and underemployment rate is more like 17 or 18%. The unemployment rate includes only those who are looking for work. In doesn't include those who would like work or work part time and want more work. Jeff
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 7 Nov 2009 11:13 On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:19:33 -0500, dr_jeff wrote: > > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:12:11 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >>> "Mark" <bogusmailmark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:0fbc693a-3adb-4bf1-9394-c8a6a62f2e3b(a)k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>>> How's that Hope and Change workin' for ya, Stupid Dim Obama-bots? >>>> Still drinking the Kool-Aid or have you had enough? >>> Obama. Isn't he the guy that said without the stimulus, unemployment >>> would hit 8%? Maybe we coulda saved some money and some jobs WITHOUT >>> the stimulus. >> >> More than likely... > > That's a stupid argument. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. Of course, we could > never have known how high unemployment would be without the stimulus. Obama did. He unequivocally said unemplyment would reach 10% without the stimulus package, and if the package were passed it would hold unemployment to approx. 8%. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgce06Yw2ro
From: Mike Hunter on 7 Nov 2009 16:12
Are you referring to the "450 teaching jobs in North Chicago," that BO said were SAVED by the stimulus bill? The same Chicago school District that has less than 300 TEACHERS, according the Herald News papers? Those teaching jobs, dr_jeff? LOL Reminds one of the 130 jobs that were "SAVED" on a repaving job in Luzern County Pennsylvania. It seems the job was already contracted by Penn DOT and scheduled to be started, as soon as the temperature reach the point at which blacktop could be laid. That Job was listed among the "shovel ready" jobs that were started only because of the federal money. According to a local newspaper, Congressmen Paul Kanjorski (D) notified Governor Rendell (D) that for the additional price of a sign, giving credit to the stimulus bill, the feds would pay 75% of the cost of the job and the sign. "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:4AF565D5.70904(a)msu.edu... > Hachiroku ???? wrote: >> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:12:11 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >>> "Mark" <bogusmailmark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:0fbc693a-3adb-4bf1-9394-c8a6a62f2e3b(a)k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>>> How's that Hope and Change workin' for ya, Stupid Dim Obama-bots? Still >>>> drinking the Kool-Aid or have you had enough? >>> Obama. Isn't he the guy that said without the stimulus, unemployment >>> would >>> hit 8%? Maybe we coulda saved some money and some jobs WITHOUT the >>> stimulus. >> >> More than likely... > > That's a stupid argument. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. Of course, we could > never have known how high unemployment would be without the stimulus. But > the stimulus resulted in many jobs being saved in schools and other > government departments, more construction and other jobs and more > scientists studying diseases. > > Jeff > |