From: john on
Not another recall! Toyota is becoming like the Old Detroit. No wonder
their cars are running out of control.

"Toyota will recall some 50,000 Sequoia sport-utility vehicles from
the 2003 model year to fix traction controls that unexpectedly switch
on – the automaker’s eighth recall in the United States this year.

The problem is not linked to any reports of injuries or crashes. It
does involve flaws in the sensors used by the vehicles’ electronic
controls, a key point of contention in the debate over thousands of
sudden acceleration cases. And as recently as February, Toyota was
telling federal regulators the problem was not a safety defect.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has been probing
the problem since 2008, and said last year it had received 68
complaints from Sequoia owners of their cars slowing down
unexpectedly, sometimes in traffic. "

Full article:
http://www.freep.com/article/20100428/BUSINESS01/100428045/1210/BUSINESS01/Toyota-to-recall-50000-2003-Sequoia-SUVs
From: hls on

"john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:58372afc-80b5-48a8-
The problem is not linked to any reports of injuries or crashes.

*********The excerpt above is one large way that this recall is different
from Detroit.. Toyota recalled our car to replace an oil line that
"might"
be prone to fail.

That is far different from the way GM handled the "born to fail" plenum
issue.

From: Ad absurdum per aspera on

> That is far different from the way GM handled the "born to fail" plenum
> issue.

I wonder, also, how Toyota is really doing statistically. A lot of
attention is focused upon them at this time. But... are they really
issuing more recalls as a percentage of the cars sold, averaged over
some nontrivial time period, at high levels of importance, than other
makers of today's insanely complex and highly electronic cars?

--Joe
From: C. E. White on

"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
news:AYydnRP7qNqS5kTWnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>
> "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:58372afc-80b5-48a8-
> The problem is not linked to any reports of injuries or crashes.
>
> *********The excerpt above is one large way that this recall is
> different
> from Detroit.. Toyota recalled our car to replace an oil line
> that "might"
> be prone to fail.
>
> That is far different from the way GM handled the "born to fail"
> plenum
> issue.

Safety issue vs Customer Satisfaction issue.

Seems to me Toyota screwed many Customers over the engine sludge
problems. I think that would be more accurate comparison to the GM
problem with intake manifolds (BTW, a freind of mine has two older
Buicks and has never had an intake manifold problem, so it wasn't a
100% failure rate).

The GM response to the uproar over intake manifold problems was almost
identical to the Toyota response to sludge problems - i.e., It is your
fault. If you took really really really good car of your car, you
wouldn't have a problem.

Ed


From: hls on

"C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
> The GM response to the uproar over intake manifold problems was almost
> identical to the Toyota response to sludge problems - i.e., It is your
> fault. If you took really really really good car of your car, you
> wouldn't have a problem.
>
> Ed

They couldnt even say that about the plenum issue. And the plenum issue
wasnt a safety issue....or was it?

Apparently the Sequoia issue isnt a safety issue either, as there have been
no problems because of it...or have there been?