Toyota stalling may be linked to on-board computers, electronic control module
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From: john on 6 Dec 2009 13:02 Yeah, I think all the recent problems are likely computer related. These ECUs just aren't up to their tasks. The problem, according to NHTSA, may be linked to onboard computers. "The agency indicates the problem could be linked to the onboard computer, or electronic control module. " http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20091205/AUTO01/912050334/1148/auto01/Feds-probe-stalling-reports-in-2-Toyota-models
From: dr_jeff on 6 Dec 2009 13:15 john wrote: > Yeah, I think all the recent problems are likely computer related. > These ECUs just aren't up to their tasks. Really. The ECUs definitely have problems, but please show us a better way that doesn't involve electronics. Carbs worked well, but wasted fuel. Without electronics, are air would be dirtier, we would use more fuel. Please suggest a better way. Jeff > The problem, according to NHTSA, may be linked to onboard computers. > "The agency indicates > the problem could be linked to the onboard computer, or electronic > control module. " > > > http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20091205/AUTO01/912050334/1148/auto01/Feds-probe-stalling-reports-in-2-Toyota-models
From: Ashton Crusher on 6 Dec 2009 13:38 On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:15:34 -0500, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote: >john wrote: >> Yeah, I think all the recent problems are likely computer related. >> These ECUs just aren't up to their tasks. > >Really. The ECUs definitely have problems, but please show us a better >way that doesn't involve electronics. Carbs worked well, but wasted >fuel. Without electronics, are air would be dirtier, we would use more fuel. > >Please suggest a better way. > >Jeff > I didn't read his comments to say ALL ECUs, just the ones in these vehicles. Most vehicles with ECUs don't have this kind of stalling problem.
From: hls on 6 Dec 2009 18:44 "Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message > > I didn't read his comments to say ALL ECUs, just the ones in these > vehicles. Most vehicles with ECUs don't have this kind of stalling > problem. I have seen tons of problems with a range of ECU's, particularly GM. GM had a run of ECU's that were very dangerous in that they would stall (die) under full speed freeway conditions if you lifted your foot from the pedal. I fought the f***ing dealership for a long time on this, and they didnt even read the bulletins. Finally, I got to the right guy at GM and he roasted the dealer over the coals, but got me a new ECU under warranty which cured the problem. We went electronic because it was powerful and simple. There were certainly mechanical systems, even with FI. Fluids computers might have been able to take some of the trouble out of the system. Military standards for components would have helped insure that the damn ECUs would work longer than a string of Christmas lights. But this might have been very expensive. Adequate quality would not have been expensive and could have removed most of the problems.
From: hls on 6 Dec 2009 19:06
"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message news:v76dnf27TfF73IHWnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > .. Fluids computers might have > been able to take some of the trouble out of the system. Should have been"fluidic computers". |