Toyota's reputation needs some TLC
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From: john on 21 Dec 2009 21:18 "Over a generation or so, Toyota built its reputation - and U.S. market share - on dependability, at a time when General Motors, Ford Motor and Chrysler couldn't shake being identified with lemons. The company that once could do no wrong has stumbled badly though a series of embarrassments of disclosures, allegations and recalls. Experts now are debating how deeply these will eat into the consumer trust that is Toyota's most potent asset - and what it must do to recover." Full article at: http://www.freep.com/article/20091221/BUSINESS01/91220036/1322/Toyotas-reputation-needs-some-TLC
From: C. E. White on 21 Dec 2009 22:51 ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.autos.toyota.camry,alt.autos.toyota,alt.autos.lexus,rec.autos.tech,alt.autos.toyota.trucks Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Toyota's reputation needs some TLC > "Over a generation or so, Toyota built its reputation - and U.S. > market share - on dependability, at a time when General Motors, Ford > Motor and Chrysler couldn't shake being identified with lemons. You mean Toyota built its reputation on the preception of reliability. I am old enough to remember Toyota from the 60's, 70's, and 80's. They were hardly paragon's of reliability. Ed
From: Don Stauffer on 22 Dec 2009 10:43 C. E. White wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> > Newsgroups: > alt.autos.toyota.camry,alt.autos.toyota,alt.autos.lexus,rec.autos.tech,alt.autos.toyota.trucks > > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:18 PM > Subject: Toyota's reputation needs some TLC > > >> "Over a generation or so, Toyota built its reputation - and U.S. >> market share - on dependability, at a time when General Motors, Ford >> Motor and Chrysler couldn't shake being identified with lemons. > > You mean Toyota built its reputation on the preception of reliability. I > am old enough to remember Toyota from the 60's, 70's, and 80's. They > were hardly paragon's of reliability. > > > Ed I guess I'd disagree. Maybe we were just lucky. My son bought a well-used Toyota Wagon to take to school in Massachusetts (we lived in Missouri). That thing went back and forth I don't know how many times, ran as well when he finished school as when he started. I had a Datsun then that was a piece of junk. I looked his car over carefully and wished that I had his car instead of mine. Castings instead of pressed steel for covers, decent plastic instead of cardboard for electrical system insulators, etc. I would agree with you on the Datsun (Nissan), not the Toyota.
From: Paph Shmir on 22 Dec 2009 12:01 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4b30fa0d$0$31963$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > The difference TODAY is that GM and Ford vehicles are rated as good or > better, in numerous consumer surveys, than Toyota and with fuel mileage > better than Toyota as well. GM and Ford vehicles can be driven home for > less, as well. > Take a look at consumer reports. Ford and GM still don't cut the mustard. They are getting closer but I would still rather have a Toyota than a Ford or GM any day.
From: Mike Hunter on 22 Dec 2009 17:43
CR, get real. Look at Consumer Digest or ANY of the numerous car buyer surveys. "Paph Shmir" <pap(a)shmir.com> wrote in message news:4b30fb5d(a)news.x-privat.org... > > > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message > news:4b30fa0d$0$31963$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >> The difference TODAY is that GM and Ford vehicles are rated as good or >> better, in numerous consumer surveys, than Toyota and with fuel mileage >> better than Toyota as well. GM and Ford vehicles can be driven home for >> less, as well. >> > Take a look at consumer reports. Ford and GM still don't cut the mustard. > They are getting closer but I would still rather have a Toyota than a Ford > or GM any day. > > > |