From: Mike Hunter on
Ya right


"Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc(a)gbr.online.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> found these unused words:
>
>>I suggest one go to one of the Ford dealerships that are dueled with
>>Toyota
>>and look at all of the cars in the shop be repaired and you will see as
>>many
>>Toyotas as Fords torn apart. The difference is the Toyota shop rate is
>>at
>>least $10 more an hour and the owner paid 20% to 30% more to drive it home
>>when it was new. ;)
>
> That's a non-fact, qualifying as a Michael Mooreism.
>
> Equal numbers could be the result of a particular day schedule, more
> toyotas
> sold than fords, or that the shop has a reputation for properly servicing
> the toyota!
>


From: C. E. White on

"Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message
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> There is VERY little difference. It's mostly perception and
> preference based on the quality problems of the domestics one or two
> decades ago. People have long memories. In the 70's you could figure
> on something going wrong with your domestic several times a year. Now
> it's pretty rare.

In the eighty I damn sure could count on something going wrong with my
Toyota three or four times a year. Finally fixed it my getting a Ford. Trips
to the shop for repairs immeadiately went to zero per year. So don't tell me
how great Toyotas were in the 70's and 80's. They built some real POS just
like every other manufacturer.

Ed

From: Ashton Crusher on
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:55:58 -0500, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message
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>
>> There is VERY little difference. It's mostly perception and
>> preference based on the quality problems of the domestics one or two
>> decades ago. People have long memories. In the 70's you could figure
>> on something going wrong with your domestic several times a year. Now
>> it's pretty rare.
>
>In the eighty I damn sure could count on something going wrong with my
>Toyota three or four times a year. Finally fixed it my getting a Ford. Trips
>to the shop for repairs immeadiately went to zero per year. So don't tell me
>how great Toyotas were in the 70's and 80's. They built some real POS just
>like every other manufacturer.
>
>Ed


You won't hear me tell you how great the Toyota's was. I have never
been impressed by them. Several years ago my Boss bought a Camry.
After hearing so much good stuff about Toyota's I was prepared to be
impressed when he drove to lunch. It was as dull a car as I think I
had ridden in in years and basically seemed no different in anyway
then any number of chevys and fords I'd been in. I know the couple of
imports I've had were not at all impressive as far as durability and
had nothing else special going for them either.
From: ben91932 on

> > Ed
>
> I guess I'd disagree.  Maybe we were just lucky.  My son bought a
> well-used Toyota Wagon to take to school in Massachusetts (we lived in
> Missouri).  That thing went back and forth I don't know how many times,
> ran as well when he finished school as when he started.
>

I have recommended Toyota's to dozens of people and not one complaint.
Also, I have been working on them since 1977, and found them to be
solid, reliable cars.
My latest is an 05 Highlander that I like alot.
YMMV, but I'll stick with what works.
HTH
Ben
From: Mike Hunter on
Toyotas generally ARE great reliable cars, the problem with them is they are
generally underpowered and over priced as well.


"ben91932" <benteaches(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Ed
>
> I guess I'd disagree. Maybe we were just lucky. My son bought a
> well-used Toyota Wagon to take to school in Massachusetts (we lived in
> Missouri). That thing went back and forth I don't know how many times,
> ran as well when he finished school as when he started.
>

I have recommended Toyota's to dozens of people and not one complaint.
Also, I have been working on them since 1977, and found them to be
solid, reliable cars.
My latest is an 05 Highlander that I like alot.
YMMV, but I'll stick with what works.
HTH
Ben