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From: dr_jeff on 27 Jan 2010 17:58 Mike Hunter wrote: > GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes Pontiac. > GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC And, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling, Saab, Saturn and Hummer. Of course, the last three brands will be closed down or sold. Jeff > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >> >>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North >>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models recalled >>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>> >>> From The Detroit News: >>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >> production. >> >> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints wleded to >> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >> >> >> > >
From: dr_jeff on 27 Jan 2010 19:44 Mike Hunter wrote: > Actually when you ever catch up you will discover SAAB and Hummer have been > sold, but that has nothing to do with Toyotas massive recall and the > government order to stop selling the cars involved. You might want to tell GM about the sales: http://www.gm.com/corporate/about/global_operations/ GM still owns Saab, although a deal to sell it is close. And it still lists Hummer as one of its brands. Jeff > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:YMGdnZR_19G_WP3WnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> Mike Hunter wrote: >>> GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes >>> Pontiac. GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC >> And, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling, Saab, Saturn and >> Hummer. Of course, the last three brands will be closed down or sold. >> >> Jeff >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North >>>>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models recalled >>>>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>>>> >>>>> From The Detroit News: >>>>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >>>> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >>>> production. >>>> >>>> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints wleded to >>>> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >
From: dr_jeff on 27 Jan 2010 20:33 Mike Hunter wrote: > You are wrong again. The only brands owned by GM are Chevrolet, Buick, > Cadillac and GMC. Their former brands and their former manufacturing > facilities are "owned" by the bankruptcy court. You are such a comedian. I never heard of a bankruptcy court owning anything. Technically, Saab, Saturn and Hummer are owned by Motors Liquidation Co., the old GM. The new GM also owns all or part of GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall, AC Delco, GMAC, OnStar, Shanghai GM and Wuling. So GM owns more than just Chevy, GMC, Caddy and Buick. Jeff > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:SsudnSSZT6BOQP3WnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> Mike Hunter wrote: >>> Actually when you ever catch up you will discover SAAB and Hummer have >>> been sold, but that has nothing to do with Toyotas massive recall and the >>> government order to stop selling the cars involved. >> You might want to tell GM about the sales: >> http://www.gm.com/corporate/about/global_operations/ >> >> GM still owns Saab, although a deal to sell it is close. >> >> And it still lists Hummer as one of its brands. >> >> >> Jeff >> >>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >>> news:YMGdnZR_19G_WP3WnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>> GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes >>>>> Pontiac. GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC >>>> And, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling, Saab, Saturn and >>>> Hummer. Of course, the last three brands will be closed down or sold. >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North >>>>>>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models >>>>>>> recalled >>>>>>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From The Detroit News: >>>>>>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >>>>>> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >>>>>> production. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints wleded >>>>>> to >>>>>> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >
From: dr_jeff on 27 Jan 2010 21:13 Mike Hunter wrote: > Duh and who controls all of that liquidation, dummy, not GM. There is a huge difference between controlling a liquidation and owning something. > Try again, > the subject is brands. One only owns something if one has controlling > interest. The bankruptcy court doesn't have controlling interest. Or any interest. Rather, it is the creditors of FMC. > I wish the stock I own in FMC made me an owner. As a General > Motors stock holder, I wish what you believe were true. If you want, I can send you a crying towel. Jeff > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:nIadnSMarKv7dP3WnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> Mike Hunter wrote: >>> You are wrong again. The only brands owned by GM are Chevrolet, Buick, >>> Cadillac and GMC. Their former brands and their former manufacturing >>> facilities are "owned" by the bankruptcy court. >> Technically, Saab, Saturn and Hummer are owned by Motors Liquidation Co., >> the old GM. >> >> The new GM also owns all or part of GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall, AC >> Delco, GMAC, OnStar, Shanghai GM and Wuling. So GM owns more than just >> Chevy, GMC, Caddy and Buick. >> >> Jeff >> >>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >>> news:SsudnSSZT6BOQP3WnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>> Actually when you ever catch up you will discover SAAB and Hummer have >>>>> been sold, but that has nothing to do with Toyotas massive recall and >>>>> the government order to stop selling the cars involved. >>>> You might want to tell GM about the sales: >>>> http://www.gm.com/corporate/about/global_operations/ >>>> >>>> GM still owns Saab, although a deal to sell it is close. >>>> >>>> And it still lists Hummer as one of its brands. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >>>>> news:YMGdnZR_19G_WP3WnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>>> GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes >>>>>>> Pontiac. GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC >>>>>> And, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling, Saab, Saturn and >>>>>> Hummer. Of course, the last three brands will be closed down or sold. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five >>>>>>>>> North >>>>>>>>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models >>>>>>>>> recalled >>>>>>>>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From The Detroit News: >>>>>>>>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >>>>>>>> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >>>>>>>> production. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints >>>>>>>> wleded to >>>>>>>> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >
From: dr_jeff on 27 Jan 2010 21:18
Actually, the name of the company is GM Holden Ltd. And according to its own web page, its parent is GM. http://www.holden.com.au/corporate/about-holden clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:33:26 -0500, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote: > >> Mike Hunter wrote: >>> You are wrong again. The only brands owned by GM are Chevrolet, Buick, >>> Cadillac and GMC. Their former brands and their former manufacturing >>> facilities are "owned" by the bankruptcy court. >> You are such a comedian. I never heard of a bankruptcy court owning >> anything. >> >> Technically, Saab, Saturn and Hummer are owned by Motors Liquidation >> Co., the old GM. >> >> The new GM also owns all or part of GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall, >> AC Delco, GMAC, OnStar, Shanghai GM and Wuling. So GM owns more than >> just Chevy, GMC, Caddy and Buick. >> >> Jeff > > Actually Holden has been wholly australian owned for close to 30 > years. Still associated with General motors, but not part of GM World > operations. >>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >>> news:SsudnSSZT6BOQP3WnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>> Actually when you ever catch up you will discover SAAB and Hummer have >>>>> been sold, but that has nothing to do with Toyotas massive recall and the >>>>> government order to stop selling the cars involved. >>>> You might want to tell GM about the sales: >>>> http://www.gm.com/corporate/about/global_operations/ >>>> >>>> GM still owns Saab, although a deal to sell it is close. >>>> >>>> And it still lists Hummer as one of its brands. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >>>>> news:YMGdnZR_19G_WP3WnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>>> GM stopped production of the Fiero years ago and not longer makes >>>>>>> Pontiac. GM today is comprised of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC >>>>>> And, GM Daewoo, Holden, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling, Saab, Saturn and >>>>>> Hummer. Of course, the last three brands will be closed down or sold. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:pan.2010.01.26.23.00.55.736541(a)e86.GTS... >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:31:35 -0800, john wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Toyota Motor Corp. said today it would halt production at five North >>>>>>>>> American plants and order dealers to stop selling eight models >>>>>>>>> recalled >>>>>>>>> last week over concerns with sticking accelerator pedals." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From The Detroit News: >>>>>>>>> http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/danielhowesblog/index.php?blogid=350#ixzz0dmQAmB7B >>>>>>>> Instead of 'slowing down' when an error is realized, Toyota stops >>>>>>>> production. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gm would do well to learn from this. Burning Fieros, CV joints wleded >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> make a FWD engine a RWD engine, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> > |