From: clare on
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:30:51 -0800 (PST), jr92
<coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 26, 7:37 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:07:03 -0800, jr92 wrote:
>> > What they are doing now is is simply a PR move.
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>> > Many are considering it to be a desperation tactic.
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>> > Time will tell if their PR move pays off.
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>> > Myself,
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>> > I value my loved ones' well-being too much to risk putting them into the
>> > likes of a Toyota.
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>> Really? What DO you put them into?
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>Good old GM cars.
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>Perform better in crash tests than their Japanese counterparts.
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>Are more fuel effecient than their Japanese counterparts.
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>Have much better performance than their Japanese counterparts.
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>Are not recalled nearly as often as their Japanese counterparts.
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>Engines dont sludge, suspensions dont rust, and throttles dont stick
>wide open nearly as often as their Japanese counterparts.
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>> My last Toyota was recalled for...
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>> the antenna not mounted to the body correctly, which may cause static on
>> the radio.
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>And my last Pontiac was recalled for an external thermometer guage not
>reading accuractly.
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And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW
many decades, without a fix??
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>> With Ford sticking stickers on the dash saying, This car may go into
>> reverse at any time...
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>Of course, certain Toyotas could have used a sticker warning drivers
>that the throttle could stick wide open at any time.
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>> Chevy making rolling blunders
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>And certain Toyotas rolling over, period.
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>> I'll stick to Toytota. They aren't perfect, but about as close as you can
>> get at a good price.
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>Prices on many models are certain to go up, due to shortages, because,
>at least for the time being, they arent being made anymore. (I guess
>there goes your "good price")
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>There is a rumor going about that the vechicles throttles may stick
>open. making them too dangerous to drive.
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>I guess that proves they "aren/t perfect."
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>In my books, that is FAR from being perfect.

From: Vic Smith on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote:


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>And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW
>many decades, without a fix??
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Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they
used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe.
Terrible response, but hardly "decades."

--Vic
From: hls on

"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8cr1m514s1h1otdja65okggj2uq3sp0q1p(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote:
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>>And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW
>>many decades, without a fix??
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> Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they
> used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe.
> Terrible response, but hardly "decades."
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> --Vic

Right..almost a decade but not quite.. Longer by far than it should have
taken to take care of an obvious cockup.

From: clare on
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:04:58 -0600, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote:

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>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:8cr1m514s1h1otdja65okggj2uq3sp0q1p(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote:
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>>>And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW
>>>many decades, without a fix??
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>> Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they
>> used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe.
>> Terrible response, but hardly "decades."
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>> --Vic
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>Right..almost a decade but not quite.. Longer by far than it should have
>taken to take care of an obvious cockup.

No, the "series 2" was actually a slight improvement overall, but they
ended up with an EGR heat problem. 1995 wasn't series 2 yet.
From: Mike Hunter on
You better research "Asbestos and the US government," it you think gasket
problems were a result of anything ANY of the auto manufactures did. LOL



"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:8cr1m514s1h1otdja65okggj2uq3sp0q1p(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote:
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>>>And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW
>>>many decades, without a fix??
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>> Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they
>> used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe.
>> Terrible response, but hardly "decades."
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>> --Vic
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> Right..almost a decade but not quite.. Longer by far than it should have
> taken to take care of an obvious cockup.


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