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From: clare on 27 Jan 2010 20:47 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:30:51 -0800 (PST), jr92 <coachrose13(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On Jan 26, 7:37 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:07:03 -0800, jr92 wrote: >> > What they are doing now is is simply a PR move. >> >> > Many are considering it to be a desperation tactic. >> >> > Time will tell if their PR move pays off. >> >> > Myself, >> >> > I value my loved ones' well-being too much to risk putting them into the >> > likes of a Toyota. >> >> Really? What DO you put them into? >> > > >Good old GM cars. > > > >Perform better in crash tests than their Japanese counterparts. > > > > >Are more fuel effecient than their Japanese counterparts. > > > > >Have much better performance than their Japanese counterparts. > > > > >Are not recalled nearly as often as their Japanese counterparts. > > > > >Engines dont sludge, suspensions dont rust, and throttles dont stick >wide open nearly as often as their Japanese counterparts. > > > > >> My last Toyota was recalled for... >> >> the antenna not mounted to the body correctly, which may cause static on >> the radio. >> > > > > >And my last Pontiac was recalled for an external thermometer guage not >reading accuractly. > > And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW many decades, without a fix?? > > > >> With Ford sticking stickers on the dash saying, This car may go into >> reverse at any time... > > > > > >Of course, certain Toyotas could have used a sticker warning drivers >that the throttle could stick wide open at any time. > > > >> >> Chevy making rolling blunders >> > > > > >And certain Toyotas rolling over, period. > > > > >> I'll stick to Toytota. They aren't perfect, but about as close as you can >> get at a good price. > > > >Prices on many models are certain to go up, due to shortages, because, >at least for the time being, they arent being made anymore. (I guess >there goes your "good price") > > >There is a rumor going about that the vechicles throttles may stick >open. making them too dangerous to drive. > > >I guess that proves they "aren/t perfect." > > > > > > > >In my books, that is FAR from being perfect.
From: Vic Smith on 27 Jan 2010 20:59 On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: >> >And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW >many decades, without a fix?? >> Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe. Terrible response, but hardly "decades." --Vic
From: hls on 28 Jan 2010 13:04 "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:8cr1m514s1h1otdja65okggj2uq3sp0q1p(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: > > >>> >>And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW >>many decades, without a fix?? >>> > > Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they > used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe. > Terrible response, but hardly "decades." > > --Vic Right..almost a decade but not quite.. Longer by far than it should have taken to take care of an obvious cockup.
From: clare on 28 Jan 2010 14:00 On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:04:58 -0600, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > >"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >news:8cr1m514s1h1otdja65okggj2uq3sp0q1p(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: >> >> >>>> >>>And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW >>>many decades, without a fix?? >>>> >> >> Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they >> used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe. >> Terrible response, but hardly "decades." >> >> --Vic > >Right..almost a decade but not quite.. Longer by far than it should have >taken to take care of an obvious cockup. No, the "series 2" was actually a slight improvement overall, but they ended up with an EGR heat problem. 1995 wasn't series 2 yet.
From: Mike Hunter on 28 Jan 2010 15:43 You better research "Asbestos and the US government," it you think gasket problems were a result of anything ANY of the auto manufactures did. LOL "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message news:QKCdnfN_jd9QTPzWnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8cr1m514s1h1otdja65okggj2uq3sp0q1p(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:47:20 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: >> >> >>>> >>>And GM built the 3.8 with defective intake manifolds/gaskets for HOW >>>many decades, without a fix?? >>>> >> >> Thought that was just the Series II. 1994 to maybe 2002 before they >> used an improved gasket. 8 years maybe. >> Terrible response, but hardly "decades." >> >> --Vic > > Right..almost a decade but not quite.. Longer by far than it should have > taken to take care of an obvious cockup.
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