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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 17 May 2010 23:33 On Mon, 17 May 2010 19:57:30 -0700, ron wrote: > I think so 86- I have a 08 Highlander Limited (bought in 07) with 36k > miles on it - it has the optional factory floor mat PLUS I always put an > after market floor mat on top to keep "factor" clean - Toyota advised me > to not leave the otional mat in it - I have tried every which way I can, > including folding the "loose" mat and trying to get the accelerator stuck > even trying to jam it against the console - couldn't do it. I can't see > or feel anything on the bottom of the pedal that could hang up. Toyota > says they are looking at it and a solution - all in all, to me it's a fake > "to do" some lawyers wanting huge class action Well, it was shown that some of the American made throttles could corrode and stick. But if they can stick open, they can also stick closed... I've had the throttle stick on one of my cars. Luckily all it took was getting a foot under the pedal and pulling it back. Then a good lube of the cable and the actuator under the hood and it didn't happen again. And I was young then...18 or 19, and nowhere near as mecahnically inclined as I am now. Of course, it was also a cable actuated throttle,and everything was mechanical. Oh, and I meant to say the "Chinese made, US supplied" pedals. As one of my friends says, "Better Living Through Chinestry!" Your HL was probably made in the US. Was it subject to the recall?
From: C. E. White on 18 May 2010 09:43 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:4bf20a9b$0$3695$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se... > On Mon, 17 May 2010 19:57:30 -0700, ron wrote: > >> I think so 86- I have a 08 Highlander Limited (bought in 07) with >> 36k >> miles on it - it has the optional factory floor mat PLUS I always >> put an >> after market floor mat on top to keep "factor" clean - Toyota >> advised me >> to not leave the otional mat in it - I have tried every which way I >> can, >> including folding the "loose" mat and trying to get the accelerator >> stuck >> even trying to jam it against the console - couldn't do it. I >> can't see >> or feel anything on the bottom of the pedal that could hang up. >> Toyota >> says they are looking at it and a solution - all in all, to me it's >> a fake >> "to do" some lawyers wanting huge class action > > Well, it was shown that some of the American made throttles could > corrode > and stick. But if they can stick open, they can also stick closed... > > I've had the throttle stick on one of my cars. Luckily all it took > was > getting a foot under the pedal and pulling it back. Then a good lube > of > the cable and the actuator under the hood and it didn't happen > again. And > I was young then...18 or 19, and nowhere near as mecahnically > inclined as > I am now. > > Of course, it was also a cable actuated throttle,and everything was > mechanical. > > Oh, and I meant to say the "Chinese made, US supplied" pedals. > > As one of my friends says, "Better Living Through Chinestry!" > > Your HL was probably made in the US. Was it subject to the recall? Toyota just started making Highlanders in the US last year. My Mother's 09 Highlander was still a Japanese made model, but she keeps getting recall notices anyhow. We don't feel there is any need to take it in. She does not have the all weather floor mats and she has the Japanese made accelerator pedal assembly. I assume Toyota is sending recall notices to everyone with a Highlander no matter whether they are in the target group or not just for the PR / anti-shark factor. On the other hand, neither of my Sisters, nor my SO have gotten recall notices for their RAV4s (also made in Japan). I guess since there are no US made RAV4s, Toyota doesn't think people will be confused. In the case of Highlanders there are US made vehicles, but only after 2009. Persoanlly I think placing a floor mat on top of the factory floor mats is idiotic in light of all the Toyota SA problems. You might not think you can bunch up the rubber mat enough to jam the pedals, but it seems like an unecessary risk. Why not leave out the factory carpet mat on the drivers side and use just the rubber mat (with the proper restraining pegs) to protect the carpet. Or better yet, get the correct Toyota all weather mats. Or buy an extra set of carpet mats you can install when you need "clean" ones. Rubber mats on top of carpet mats to protect the carpet mats that protect the carpets seems excessive (although I have done it myself...). Ed
From: Mike Hunter on 18 May 2010 18:40 What in the world make you believe the Auto Unions have to anything to do with Toyota having to recall almost eleven million vehicles around the world and being fined by the NHTSA $16,500,000 for trying to cover up the fact they were building defective vehicles for over two years??? "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:6rWdnVSHCeiekm7WnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > In article <yEmIn.27558$_84.1719(a)newsfe18.iad>, > "ron" <randus3(a)teranews.com> wrote: > >> I am amazed how fast Toyota repaired these vehicles and cured the >> acceleration problem, practically overnight. > > It certainly has become a very quiet issue hasn't it. > > All the hype I've seen in the past is a segment of payback to the big > automakers unions. The obama gave them that bru-hah-hah stuff, like > with ray thehood smerks at the hearing and all. Big tough guy ray > the-hood. > -- >
From: ron on 18 May 2010 21:53
Both our 08 Highlander and our 09 RAV4 are "J" models - I've been putting carpeted after-market mats in our vehicles for some time - never a problem they do grip the carpet with their backing pretty well and as I said above, I've deliberately tried to jam the pedal - no can do with the mat Probably could if I triple folded it and shoved it up against the console but that's hardly a real world test - Toyota says they have no solution and "Suggest" that after market mats be removed - |