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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Nov 2009 22:04 On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:51:13 -0800, john wrote: > > This is getting interesting. There were engine surge problems from the > beginning of drive-by-wires that Toyota issued TSBs to fix I have a drive-by-wire Scion with the Camry engine. No TSBs. Find one for me.
From: C. E. White on 30 Nov 2009 07:31
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.11.28.03.04.09.111435(a)e86.GTS... > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:51:13 -0800, john wrote: > >> >> This is getting interesting. There were engine surge problems from >> the >> beginning of drive-by-wires that Toyota issued TSBs to fix > > I have a drive-by-wire Scion with the Camry engine. No TSBs. Find > one for > me. What year is your Scion? NHTSA list 33 TSBs for a 2005 tC. Only one seems even slightly related to reprogramming the engine controller - Make / Models : Model/Build Years: TOYOTA / SCION TC 2005-2008 TOYOTA / SCION XA 2004-2008 TOYOTA / SCION XB 2004-2008 TOYOTA / XD 2008 Service Bulletin Number : 00307 NHTSA Item Number : 10022144 Summary Description : TECHSTREAM ECU FLASH REPROGRAMMING PROCEDURE. *KB Unfortunately NHTSA doesn't give you the text of the TSB for free. Also, the NHTSA list often includes special serivce messages in he list. These are not traditional TSBs but are broadcst messages. Manufacturers are required to notifiy NHTSA of any safety related service bulletins. US manaufacturers usually send NHTSA all service meassges, even very mundane ones. In the past Toyota was more selective, although after looking through the lsit of Scion TSBs listed by NHTSA, it appears they are being less selective now. If you really want to know if the TSB in the NHTSA list affects your car, you can always pay for access to the Toyota Service Information System. Daily access is available for a very reasonable fee. I also looked in the NHTSA defect investigation database., The only defect investigation open againt a Scion tC was related to the sunroof. In my opinion, the pot stirring regarding fly by wire systems is comig from two soruces, ignorant fear mongering and trial lawer Customer developement activities. Ed |