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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Nov 2009 22:04
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:51:13 -0800, john wrote:

>
> This is getting interesting. There were engine surge problems from the
> beginning of drive-by-wires that Toyota issued TSBs to fix

I have a drive-by-wire Scion with the Camry engine. No TSBs. Find one for
me.



From: C. E. White on 30 Nov 2009 07:31

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.11.28.03.04.09.111435(a)e86.GTS...
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:51:13 -0800, john wrote:
>
>>
>> This is getting interesting. There were engine surge problems from
>> the
>> beginning of drive-by-wires that Toyota issued TSBs to fix
>
> I have a drive-by-wire Scion with the Camry engine. No TSBs. Find
> one for
> me.

What year is your Scion? NHTSA list 33 TSBs for a 2005 tC. Only one
seems even slightly related to reprogramming the engine controller -

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
TOYOTA / SCION TC 2005-2008
TOYOTA / SCION XA 2004-2008
TOYOTA / SCION XB 2004-2008
TOYOTA / XD 2008

Service Bulletin Number : 00307
NHTSA Item Number : 10022144
Summary Description :
TECHSTREAM ECU FLASH REPROGRAMMING PROCEDURE. *KB

Unfortunately NHTSA doesn't give you the text of the TSB for free.
Also, the NHTSA list often includes special serivce messages in he
list. These are not traditional TSBs but are broadcst messages.
Manufacturers are required to notifiy NHTSA of any safety related
service bulletins. US manaufacturers usually send NHTSA all service
meassges, even very mundane ones. In the past Toyota was more
selective, although after looking through the lsit of Scion TSBs
listed by NHTSA, it appears they are being less selective now. If you
really want to know if the TSB in the NHTSA list affects your car, you
can always pay for access to the Toyota Service Information System.
Daily access is available for a very reasonable fee.

I also looked in the NHTSA defect investigation database., The only
defect investigation open againt a Scion tC was related to the
sunroof.

In my opinion, the pot stirring regarding fly by wire systems is comig
from two soruces, ignorant fear mongering and trial lawer Customer
developement activities.

Ed


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