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From: Bill Yanaire, ESQ on 24 May 2010 16:08
You're back. I thought maybe you got arrested again or you were found stone
drunk in some alley because you haven't posted in awhile. Back to the
negative postings. Don't you wish you could afford to buy TOYOTA?

Oops.



From: Mike Hunter on 24 May 2010 17:02
You are correct about the higher costs of the average Toyota. Industry
statistic show that the average Toyota buyer pays 20% to 30% more to drive
home a Toyota than he would have paid to drive home the average domestic of
the same size and with the same equipment.


"Bill Yanaire, ESQ" <bill(a)yanaire.com> wrote in message
news:4bfadcc6$1(a)news.x-privat.org...
> You're back. I thought maybe you got arrested again or you were found
> stone drunk in some alley because you haven't posted in awhile. Back to
> the negative postings. Don't you wish you could afford to buy TOYOTA?
>
> Oops.
>
>
>


From: E. Meyer on 26 May 2010 10:14
On 5/23/10 12:36 PM, in article
56e2c5d1-58ee-46c8-ae31-31db2e059389(a)a16g2000prg.googlegroups.com, "john"
<johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Five months before the new 2002 Lexus ES hit showroom floors, the
> company's U.S. engineers sent a test report to Toyota City in Japan:
> The luxury sedan shifted gears so roughly that it was "not acceptable
> for production."
>
> Days later, another Japanese executive sent an e-mail to top managers
> saying that despite misgivings among U.S. officials, the 2002 Lexus
> was "marginally acceptable for production." The new ES went on sale
> across the nation on Oct. 1, 2001.
>
> In an interview with company lawyers in November 2005, two Toyota
> engineers indicated that "the performance characteristics of the
> vehicles are NOT related to the software, but to hardware issues,"
> according to an e-mail sent by Biller.
>
> But company officials ruled out solving the problem "due to the
> complications as well as costs associated with a change from three to
> four engine mounts," according to a memo written by Toyota's outside
> counsel regarding the same meeting.
>
> The redesigned 2007 ES, released less than a year later, had four
> engine mounts."
>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lexus-20100523,0,3565181.story

A rough shifting transmission is not a defect, safety of otherwise, its just
a crappy transmission. If anyone test drove the car before buying and it
bothered them, they wouldn't have bought it.

Clearly, if it was in production for six years and people were buying and
driving the cars, there wasn't anything seriously wrong with it. The
message I get from this is that American buyers were dumb enough to buy a
car with a "marginally acceptable" shifting transmission and kept doing it
for six years.

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