From: john on
"Akio Toyoda's story doesn't add up.

The president of Toyota Motor Corp., the centrally controlled behemoth
founded 73 years ago by his grandfather, told a congressional
committee Wednesday that he didn't know about mounting sudden-
acceleration complaints with Toyota vehicles until late last year.

He also didn't know the substance of a corporate briefing paper
prepared in July that touted $100 million in savings on recalls,
warned about sudden acceleration complaints in Toyota and Lexus models
and described a federal bureaucracy that is not "industry-friendly."

But now, faced with a global brand and P.R. fiasco, Toyoda knows with
"absolute certainty" that the sudden unintended acceleration
complaints tied to 34 deaths and the recall of 8.5 million vehicles
worldwide cannot be attributed to electronic throttle controls in
Toyota and Lexus cars and trucks.

Really?"

From The Detroit News:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100225/OPINION03/2250352/1363/AUTO04/Toyota+executives++testimony+comes+off+as+clueless#ixzz0giWQQzar
From: Tegger on
john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
news:d0196b30-7936-47ec-aec3-5d51abec9d1c(a)m27g2000prl.googlegroups.com:

> "Akio Toyoda's story doesn't add up.
>
> The president of Toyota Motor Corp., the centrally controlled behemoth
> founded 73 years ago by his grandfather, told a congressional
> committee Wednesday that he didn't know about mounting sudden-
> acceleration complaints with Toyota vehicles until late last year.


ALL automakers have SUA incidents. In fact, from 2004 to 2009,
Ford had FAR MORE of them than Toyota did.
See the small graph part way down this page:
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703510204575085531383717288.html>

How fast did Ford react to those sticking cruise-controls?
Not too quickly, I see...
<http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=ford+%22cruise+control%22+sticking+recall&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=ford+%22cruise+control%22+sticking+recall&fp=c26c79a56c95bda8>

Where was your righteous indignation then, "john"?

No company is going to react until they see that there really
is a problem resulting in issues over and above what is "normal".
And certainly nobody's going to bug a company's President with
mundane technical issues.



>
> He also didn't know the substance of a corporate briefing paper
> prepared in July that touted $100 million in savings on recalls,
> warned about sudden acceleration complaints in Toyota and Lexus models
> and described a federal bureaucracy that is not "industry-friendly."



But I thought the NHTSA was in the automakers' pockets! You can't
have it both ways, buddy.


>
> But now, faced with a global brand and P.R. fiasco, Toyoda knows with
> "absolute certainty" that the sudden unintended acceleration
> complaints tied to 34 deaths and the recall of 8.5 million vehicles
> worldwide cannot be attributed to electronic throttle controls in
> Toyota and Lexus cars and trucks.
>
> Really?"



Yeah. Really. It's simple pedal misapplication, just like always.

And that Rhonda Smith lady? Her complaint had been rejected by two
inquiries already, so why is she being given a third kick at
the cat?

As for 77-year-old Guadalupe Alberto, she fits the standard profile
of the pedal-misaplication SUA incident:
- female
- elderly
- occasional driver.
Her family's ghoulish lawyers will try to turn her death into
cold hard cash, but Toyota is almost certainly blameless.




>
> From The Detroit News:
> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100225/OPINION03/2250352/1363/AUTO
> 04/Toyota+executives++testimony+comes+off+as+clueless#ixzz0giWQQzar
>


This is just a hatchet-job written by a union worker who is upset
that his union pals are losing their Government Motors jobs.

A different view, here:
<http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/24/peter-foster-runaway-legislators.aspx>

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Tegger

From: ransley on
On Feb 27, 12:57 am, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Akio Toyoda's story doesn't add up.
>
> The president of Toyota Motor Corp., the centrally controlled behemoth
> founded 73 years ago by his grandfather, told a congressional
> committee Wednesday that he didn't know about mounting sudden-
> acceleration complaints with Toyota vehicles until late last year.
>
> He also didn't know the substance of a corporate briefing paper
> prepared in July that touted $100 million in savings on recalls,
> warned about sudden acceleration complaints in Toyota and Lexus models
> and described a federal bureaucracy that is not "industry-friendly."
>
> But now, faced with a global brand and P.R. fiasco, Toyoda knows with
> "absolute certainty" that the sudden unintended acceleration
> complaints tied to 34 deaths and the recall of 8.5 million vehicles
> worldwide cannot be attributed to electronic throttle controls in
> Toyota and Lexus cars and trucks.
>
> Really?"
>
> From The Detroit News:http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100225/OPINION03/2250352/1363/AU...

Yea and when Congress grilled the tobacco executives they all said
"we dont think nicoteen is addictive" If he told the truth then he
would have big exsplainin to do, this way he just Lies It Away and
hopes we are dumbasses.
From: jim beam on
On 02/26/2010 10:57 PM, john wrote:
> "Akio Toyoda's story doesn't add up.
>
> The president of Toyota Motor Corp., the centrally controlled behemoth
> founded 73 years ago by his grandfather, told a congressional
> committee Wednesday that he didn't know about mounting sudden-
> acceleration complaints with Toyota vehicles until late last year.
>
> He also didn't know the substance of a corporate briefing paper
> prepared in July that touted $100 million in savings on recalls,
> warned about sudden acceleration complaints in Toyota and Lexus models
> and described a federal bureaucracy that is not "industry-friendly."
>
> But now, faced with a global brand and P.R. fiasco, Toyoda knows with
> "absolute certainty" that the sudden unintended acceleration
> complaints tied to 34 deaths and the recall of 8.5 million vehicles
> worldwide cannot be attributed to electronic throttle controls in
> Toyota and Lexus cars and trucks.
>
> Really?"
>
> From The Detroit News:
> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100225/OPINION03/2250352/1363/AUTO04/Toyota+executives++testimony+comes+off+as+clueless#ixzz0giWQQzar

hey, john, when you astroturf like this, is it essential you post a link
with your special tag tracer ["ixzz0giWQQzar"] on the end? do you get
paid by the click-through?


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nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on
On 02/27/2010 04:30 AM, Tegger wrote:
> john<johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:d0196b30-7936-47ec-aec3-5d51abec9d1c(a)m27g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
>
>> "Akio Toyoda's story doesn't add up.
>>
>> The president of Toyota Motor Corp., the centrally controlled behemoth
>> founded 73 years ago by his grandfather, told a congressional
>> committee Wednesday that he didn't know about mounting sudden-
>> acceleration complaints with Toyota vehicles until late last year.
>
>
> ALL automakers have SUA incidents. In fact, from 2004 to 2009,
> Ford had FAR MORE of them than Toyota did.
> See the small graph part way down this page:
> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703510204575085531383717288.html>
>
> How fast did Ford react to those sticking cruise-controls?
> Not too quickly, I see...
> <http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=ford+%22cruise+control%22+sticking+recall&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=ford+%22cruise+control%22+sticking+recall&fp=c26c79a56c95bda8>
>
> Where was your righteous indignation then, "john"?
>
> No company is going to react until they see that there really
> is a problem resulting in issues over and above what is "normal".
> And certainly nobody's going to bug a company's President with
> mundane technical issues.
>
>
>
>>
>> He also didn't know the substance of a corporate briefing paper
>> prepared in July that touted $100 million in savings on recalls,
>> warned about sudden acceleration complaints in Toyota and Lexus models
>> and described a federal bureaucracy that is not "industry-friendly."
>
>
>
> But I thought the NHTSA was in the automakers' pockets! You can't
> have it both ways, buddy.
>
>
>>
>> But now, faced with a global brand and P.R. fiasco, Toyoda knows with
>> "absolute certainty" that the sudden unintended acceleration
>> complaints tied to 34 deaths and the recall of 8.5 million vehicles
>> worldwide cannot be attributed to electronic throttle controls in
>> Toyota and Lexus cars and trucks.
>>
>> Really?"
>
>
>
> Yeah. Really. It's simple pedal misapplication, just like always.
>
> And that Rhonda Smith lady? Her complaint had been rejected by two
> inquiries already, so why is she being given a third kick at
> the cat?
>
> As for 77-year-old Guadalupe Alberto, she fits the standard profile
> of the pedal-misaplication SUA incident:
> - female
> - elderly
> - occasional driver.
> Her family's ghoulish lawyers will try to turn her death into
> cold hard cash, but Toyota is almost certainly blameless.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From The Detroit News:
>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100225/OPINION03/2250352/1363/AUTO
>> 04/Toyota+executives++testimony+comes+off+as+clueless#ixzz0giWQQzar
>>
>
>
> This is just a hatchet-job written by a union worker who is upset
> that his union pals are losing their Government Motors jobs.
>
> A different view, here:
> <http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/24/peter-foster-runaway-legislators.aspx>
>


potw.

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