Toyota Throttle Electronics Easily Confused
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From: john on 23 Feb 2010 20:47 The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the problems. The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so no real solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. "In earlier testimony, David Gilbert, a Southern Illinois University professor, tells the panel he was able to produce in a lab environment a sudden-acceleration incident using a Toyota vehicle, in essence by introducing a short between two circuits. Gilbert, whose research was sponsored by consumer advocacy firm Safety Research & Strategies, says it was fairly simple to confuse the Toyota electronics, but he has so far been unable to introduce a similar failure in the electronic controls for a Buick Lucerne." http://wardsauto.com/home/toyota_still_looking_100223/
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 23 Feb 2010 23:30 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:47:06 -0800, john wrote: > > The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the problems. > The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so no real > solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. Near as I can see, you're the only confused thing I can see around here. IMO, of course.
From: jim beam on 24 Feb 2010 00:13 On 02/23/2010 05:47 PM, john wrote: > The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the > problems. The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so > no real solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. "in your opinion"? are you a software engineer? are you an electrical engineer? are you /any/ form of engineer? > > "In earlier testimony, David Gilbert, a Southern Illinois University > professor, tells the panel he was able to produce in a lab environment > a sudden-acceleration incident using a Toyota vehicle, in essence by > introducing a short between two circuits. > > Gilbert, whose research was sponsored by consumer advocacy firm Safety > Research& Strategies, says it was fairly simple to confuse the Toyota > electronics, but he has so far been unable to introduce a similar > failure in the electronic controls for a Buick Lucerne." > > http://wardsauto.com/home/toyota_still_looking_100223/ and we can find "witnesses" that will stand up and allege that their vehicle's throttle, brakes, transmission and ignition all failed simultaneously. but not as simultaneously as their credibility. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 24 Feb 2010 06:55 "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:o4SdnZnR94D1KBnWnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 02/23/2010 05:47 PM, john wrote: >> The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the >> problems. The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so >> no real solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. > > "in your opinion"? are you a software engineer? are you an electrical > engineer? are you /any/ form of engineer? He can swap a hard drive while blindfolded, and he knows some geologists.
From: Mike Hunter on 24 Feb 2010 11:21
I have been saying all along that I believe the solution to Toyotas uncontrolled problems will likely be found in the logarithms in the process controller. I AM an retired engineer, I worked as an field Engineer for VW and as an automotive design engineer for GM and Ford for over 60 years. ;) "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:o4SdnZnR94D1KBnWnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 02/23/2010 05:47 PM, john wrote: >> The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the >> problems. The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so >> no real solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. > > "in your opinion"? are you a software engineer? are you an electrical > engineer? are you /any/ form of engineer? > > >> >> "In earlier testimony, David Gilbert, a Southern Illinois University >> professor, tells the panel he was able to produce in a lab environment >> a sudden-acceleration incident using a Toyota vehicle, in essence by >> introducing a short between two circuits. >> >> Gilbert, whose research was sponsored by consumer advocacy firm Safety >> Research& Strategies, says it was fairly simple to confuse the Toyota >> electronics, but he has so far been unable to introduce a similar >> failure in the electronic controls for a Buick Lucerne." >> >> http://wardsauto.com/home/toyota_still_looking_100223/ > > and we can find "witnesses" that will stand up and allege that their > vehicle's throttle, brakes, transmission and ignition all failed > simultaneously. but not as simultaneously as their credibility. > > > -- > nomina rutrum rutrum |