From: john on
"The Japanese automaker also said it had been able to duplicate a flaw
in the skid control system on new Lexus GX 460 sport utility vehicles,
but said it had not yet settled on exactly how to fix the problem.

The automaker stopped selling the Lexus GX460, a SUV sold by Toyota’s
luxury brand, earlier this week after Consumer Reports deemed the
truck unsafe to drive because its skid controls allowed the vehicle to
veer to the side before regaining control in certain maneuvers.

http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/BUSINESS01/4160356/1331/business01/Toyota-solution-may-come-in-summer
From: ransley on
On Apr 17, 1:20 am, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "The Japanese automaker also said it had been able to duplicate a flaw
> in the skid control system on new Lexus GX 460 sport utility vehicles,
> but said it had not yet settled on exactly how to fix the problem.
>
> The automaker stopped selling the Lexus GX460, a SUV sold by Toyota’s
> luxury brand, earlier this week after Consumer Reports deemed the
> truck unsafe to drive because its skid controls allowed the vehicle to
> veer to the side before regaining control in certain maneuvers.
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/BUSINESS01/4160356/1331/busines...

The real point of all this is Toyota does their own tests and knew and
ignored it. The 4 runner is the same chassis but its fine so you dont
need an Einstein to know the fix, especialy if you are the one that
built the dam truck. They know how to fix it, they is a Lyin agaiiin.
From: Bill on
>"The Japanese automaker also said it had been able to duplicate a flaw
> in the skid control system on new Lexus GX 460 sport utility vehicles,
> but said it had not yet settled on exactly how to fix the problem.
>

This could be a problem with the Asian culture or language.

For one, I think it is rude in that culture to point out that something is
wrong? To confront someone and say they are not correct, etc. To tell
someone their product has faults. No problem doing this in America...

Then due to the complexity of languages there, I think it is common for
people to never fully understand everything in their languages. I think they
tend to be passive if they don't understand something someone says - do
nothing. In America we would say "What do you mean? Please explain!"

As a result of this (or something else?), they have a weakness in the
software and quality control areas. Things will mostly work to the
specifications, but will not work exactly right.

For example I bought a USB to Serial adapter made in Asia. It mostly worked
ok, but could not send or receive a BREAK signal! This would be buried deep
in the English language technical specifications. Someone designing this
product probably did not understand the translation, so did nothing...

Then there is a WALL between America and Asia. I can't exactly call them up
or send them an email and explain what is wrong with their product
technically. They would not understand what I was talking about. I have
tried this in the past and they were defensive. Could not understand what I
was saying. So I don't even try anymore.


From: jim on


me wrote:

> I had a problem with my Toyota back in 1986 while still under factory
> warranty. It was a relatively small problem but could result in a car
> fire. It was clearly a design issue and likely affecting every single
> Toyota they'd made.

You know. the above statement makes you look like a complete ignoramus
who has lost all touch with reality. In other words a typical usenet
poster.

Let's examine the statement: You have an opinion about an automobile
defect. Obviously there are also numerous automobile engineers and
safety experts with their own opinions that do not agree with yours. But
yet in spite of these facts that should be obvious to anyone reading,
you clearly expect that everyone who reads your statement will
automatically agree with your opinion without even knowing what exactly
that opinion is. Did it even cross your mind that you just leaped off a
huge cliff and now you have nothing but 1000's of feet of empty space
underneath you?

-jim
From: hls on

"me" <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote in message
news:dfgjs55ork9rem3romsugcs5sjkt5qnlto(a)4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 06:21:31 -0700, "Bill"
> <billnomailnospamx(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>This could be a problem with the Asian culture or language.
>>
>>For one, I think it is rude in that culture to point out that something is
>>wrong? To confront someone and say they are not correct, etc. To tell
>>someone their product has faults. No problem doing this in America...
>>
>>Then due to the complexity of languages there, I think it is common for
>>people to never fully understand everything in their languages. I think
>>they
>>tend to be passive if they don't understand something someone says - do
>>nothing. In America we would say "What do you mean? Please explain!"
>
> You're in the ballpark, but I don't know that you are hitting the
> nail. Toyota REFUSES to admit to problems, even when they are glaring
> and obvious and have serious implications.

In this part of the country, you would be known as a "turdhead".

Companies make mistakes.. What really matters is how they deal
with the mistake after it occurs.

If it is a GM mistake, it is normally ignored.

If Toyota makes a mistake, a "turdhead" normally tries to make it
more than it is.

My cars have been considered, even though there was NEVER any
instance of a problem, and they have been updated.

No problem at all.

Except to a "turdhead".