From: john on 17 Apr 2010 02:20 "The Japanese automaker also said it had been able to duplicate a flaw in the skid control system on new Lexus GX 460 sport utility vehicles, but said it had not yet settled on exactly how to fix the problem. The automaker stopped selling the Lexus GX460, a SUV sold by Toyotas luxury brand, earlier this week after Consumer Reports deemed the truck unsafe to drive because its skid controls allowed the vehicle to veer to the side before regaining control in certain maneuvers. http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/BUSINESS01/4160356/1331/business01/Toyota-solution-may-come-in-summer
From: ransley on 17 Apr 2010 07:29 On Apr 17, 1:20 am, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "The Japanese automaker also said it had been able to duplicate a flaw > in the skid control system on new Lexus GX 460 sport utility vehicles, > but said it had not yet settled on exactly how to fix the problem. > > The automaker stopped selling the Lexus GX460, a SUV sold by Toyotas > luxury brand, earlier this week after Consumer Reports deemed the > truck unsafe to drive because its skid controls allowed the vehicle to > veer to the side before regaining control in certain maneuvers. > > http://www.freep.com/article/20100416/BUSINESS01/4160356/1331/busines... The real point of all this is Toyota does their own tests and knew and ignored it. The 4 runner is the same chassis but its fine so you dont need an Einstein to know the fix, especialy if you are the one that built the dam truck. They know how to fix it, they is a Lyin agaiiin.
From: Bill on 17 Apr 2010 09:21 >"The Japanese automaker also said it had been able to duplicate a flaw > in the skid control system on new Lexus GX 460 sport utility vehicles, > but said it had not yet settled on exactly how to fix the problem. > This could be a problem with the Asian culture or language. For one, I think it is rude in that culture to point out that something is wrong? To confront someone and say they are not correct, etc. To tell someone their product has faults. No problem doing this in America... Then due to the complexity of languages there, I think it is common for people to never fully understand everything in their languages. I think they tend to be passive if they don't understand something someone says - do nothing. In America we would say "What do you mean? Please explain!" As a result of this (or something else?), they have a weakness in the software and quality control areas. Things will mostly work to the specifications, but will not work exactly right. For example I bought a USB to Serial adapter made in Asia. It mostly worked ok, but could not send or receive a BREAK signal! This would be buried deep in the English language technical specifications. Someone designing this product probably did not understand the translation, so did nothing... Then there is a WALL between America and Asia. I can't exactly call them up or send them an email and explain what is wrong with their product technically. They would not understand what I was talking about. I have tried this in the past and they were defensive. Could not understand what I was saying. So I don't even try anymore.
From: jim on 17 Apr 2010 12:46 me wrote: > I had a problem with my Toyota back in 1986 while still under factory > warranty. It was a relatively small problem but could result in a car > fire. It was clearly a design issue and likely affecting every single > Toyota they'd made. You know. the above statement makes you look like a complete ignoramus who has lost all touch with reality. In other words a typical usenet poster. Let's examine the statement: You have an opinion about an automobile defect. Obviously there are also numerous automobile engineers and safety experts with their own opinions that do not agree with yours. But yet in spite of these facts that should be obvious to anyone reading, you clearly expect that everyone who reads your statement will automatically agree with your opinion without even knowing what exactly that opinion is. Did it even cross your mind that you just leaped off a huge cliff and now you have nothing but 1000's of feet of empty space underneath you? -jim
From: hls on 17 Apr 2010 20:50
"me" <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote in message news:dfgjs55ork9rem3romsugcs5sjkt5qnlto(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 06:21:31 -0700, "Bill" > <billnomailnospamx(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>This could be a problem with the Asian culture or language. >> >>For one, I think it is rude in that culture to point out that something is >>wrong? To confront someone and say they are not correct, etc. To tell >>someone their product has faults. No problem doing this in America... >> >>Then due to the complexity of languages there, I think it is common for >>people to never fully understand everything in their languages. I think >>they >>tend to be passive if they don't understand something someone says - do >>nothing. In America we would say "What do you mean? Please explain!" > > You're in the ballpark, but I don't know that you are hitting the > nail. Toyota REFUSES to admit to problems, even when they are glaring > and obvious and have serious implications. In this part of the country, you would be known as a "turdhead". Companies make mistakes.. What really matters is how they deal with the mistake after it occurs. If it is a GM mistake, it is normally ignored. If Toyota makes a mistake, a "turdhead" normally tries to make it more than it is. My cars have been considered, even though there was NEVER any instance of a problem, and they have been updated. No problem at all. Except to a "turdhead". |