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From: Ralph Mowery on 13 Nov 2009 17:45 "in2dadark" <in2dadark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c8477940-090f-4df1-ac07-2cf953ab882a(a)p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >Sounds like the other guy was a parts swapper? Swap >out this and that >and hope it works. And of course they want to start with >the most >expensive item. I almost wish that the parts swapper had done that to my car. Had a 91 Camry a few years back that started running rough and would sometimes cut off. I put in plugs, coil and wires. No help. The Autozone help page mentioned a mass air flow sensor (think that was it) but it cost over $ 500. Thought I would take it to a dealer to find out. After 3 weeks of swapping parts out, they finally decided on that sensor and it fixed the problem. I wound up with about 2 or 3 othe sensors for about $ 100 each, a new set of wires as I had not used Toyota wires and a few other things. By the time they finished with it, I had about $ 1400 in the repair. I would not have minded the cost of the $ 500 sensor and labor to change it, but it really ticked me off they replaced other things and took 3 weeks to repair it.
From: Ray O on 14 Nov 2009 02:17 "Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message news:hdkmgi$1bg$1(a)panix2.panix.com... > Mike Hunter <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >>That is one reason the most often replaced GOOD part on todays vehicles, >>is >>the O2 sensor. LOL > > Is the number two the coil, still? > --scott > > > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I would guess #2 is mass air flow sensors. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Ray O on 14 Nov 2009 02:20 "Ralph Mowery" <rmowery28146(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:0_6dneYIS_4MfGDXnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > "in2dadark" <in2dadark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c8477940-090f-4df1-ac07-2cf953ab882a(a)p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > >>Sounds like the other guy was a parts swapper? Swap >out this and that >>and hope it works. And of course they want to start with >the most >>expensive item. > > I almost wish that the parts swapper had done that to my car. Had a 91 > Camry a few years back that started running rough and would sometimes cut > off. I put in plugs, coil and wires. No help. The Autozone help page > mentioned a mass air flow sensor (think that was it) but it cost over $ > 500. Thought I would take it to a dealer to find out. After 3 weeks of > swapping parts out, they finally decided on that sensor and it fixed the > problem. I wound up with about 2 or 3 othe sensors for about $ 100 each, > a new set of wires as I had not used Toyota wires and a few other things. > By the time they finished with it, I had about $ 1400 in the repair. I > would not have minded the cost of the $ 500 sensor and labor to change it, > but it really ticked me off they replaced other things and took 3 weeks to > repair it. the dealer should have put the car on a scope to check the ignition system. Aftermarket ignition can cause those symptoms that the parts can be checked with a scope. The MAF sensor probably only needed cleaning. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Ralph Mowery on 14 Nov 2009 10:19 "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message news:hdllp1$u20$3(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> By the time they finished with it, I had about $ 1400 in the repair. I >> would not have minded the cost of the $ 500 sensor and labor to change >> it, but it really ticked me off they replaced other things and took 3 >> weeks to repair it. > > the dealer should have put the car on a scope to check the ignition > system. Aftermarket ignition can cause those symptoms that the parts can > be checked with a scope. The MAF sensor probably only needed cleaning. > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) > Cleaning it sure would have saved me a bunch. That dealership is not known for very good mechanics, I found out later. I doubt they even know how to use a scope on the engine. A co-worker took a car there for running rough. They changed the spark plugs among other things. Car ran ok for a week and then acted up again. The co-worker decided to look at the plugs and found they had only replaced 7 of the 8 plugs. It was not replaced as it was very hard to get to. Had to be an origional plug as it was a differant brand than the other 7. This is a Ford/Toyota dealership and it was a Ford with the 8 plugs.
From: Mike Hunter on 14 Nov 2009 13:39
In the old days it was the condenser, in the distruster. As long as the points did not burn, the condenser will last a lifetime. My 71 Pinto, with 300,000 miles on the odometer still has the original condenser, although I've changed points more times than I can remember. I carry one in the glove box in case it does fail some day. ;) "Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message news:hdkmgi$1bg$1(a)panix2.panix.com... > Mike Hunter <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >>That is one reason the most often replaced GOOD part on todays vehicles, >>is >>the O2 sensor. LOL > > Is the number two the coil, still? > --scott > > > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |