From: Mike Hunter on 16 Jan 2010 13:55 Speaking of old Toyotas, one never sees any of them at old cars shows. What's up with that? "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.01.14.16.16.14.753015(a)e86.GTS... > On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:13:49 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> Actually the term DOOZY is a old term that referred to something being as >> good as a Duisenberg, one of the finest car ever made. Nothing Toyota >> ever made can be compared to a Duisenberg. ;) > > > http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/03/bonham_auction/image/1969_toyota_2000_gt.jpg > > >> >> <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >> news:v82tk51ejfi616sd97tqeapfvtc03cc4ap(a)4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:12:55 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>That is probably because it is not a Toyota >>>> >>>> >>> You misunderstood again Mike. >>> When he said the TL is a Doozy, he meant it was well in the running for >>> "Ugliest car ever built". >>> >>> Beats just about any Toyota less than 15 years old. ( I mean for UGLY, >>> not for looks) >>> Some of the old Crowns and Coronas were definitely ugly, but the later >>> stuff is just "pedestrian". >>> >>> For manufacturers,Daihatsu beat Toyota on the ugly scale, and Subaru has >>> definitely been pushing hard (think Tribeca and WRX) along with >>> Mitsubishi (the EVO frontend is just an example) but I don't think any >>> current manufacturer in the North American market has a firm hold on the >>> title, accross the board. >>> >>> They've ALL designed and built and foisted on the American public some >>> pretty AWFULL designs - along with some real beautys. >>> >>> However, beauty is DEFINITELY in the eye of the beholder, and what You >>> may think is beautiful I may think is horrendous, and Vise Versa. >>>> >>>>"tww1491" <twaugh5(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>>news:FJt3n.33110$Gf3.12733(a)newsfe22.iad... >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4b4df272$0$7749$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>>>> They should do a survey of the Ugliest car manufacturer, Toyota would >>>>>> will hands down LOL >>>>> I don't know -- the Acura TL is a doozy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "chronicle" <rca976(a)live.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:a4e44c5e-a999-4ae4-be25-04c2e40d297d(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> x-no-archive:yes >>>>>> On Jan 12, 7:57 am, Dur <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> (Car Lust) - Some cars are beautiful, and some ... well, not to put >>>>>>> too fine a point on it, some cars are not beautiful. The proportions >>>>>>> are off, or the detailing is overwrought, or a prominent design >>>>>>> element clashes with the rest of the styling, or it's bland and >>>>>>> boring, or something's just ... not quite right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And then there are those select few that are total aesthetic >>>>>>> disasters. Not just ugly, but dog ugly. Butt ugly. >>>>>>> Warthog-beaten-with-an-ugly-stick ugly. Cars it hurts just to look >>>>>>> at. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Today's subject is such a car. It was voted "the ugliest car ever >>>>>>> made" by the readers of CarData, Whether that's exactly right or >>>>>>> wrong--I can think of a few other contenders for that dubious >>>>>>> honor--this car is nevertheless one whose body panels insult the >>>>>>> very steel they were stamped out of. Continue reading only if you be >>>>>>> men and women of valor, for the styling of this automobile is so >>>>>>> just plain wrong that it would make even an Aztek owner recoil in >>>>>>> horror... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Continued: http://xrl.us/UgliestCar >>>>>> >>>>>> Nothing was uglier than the Aztek. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 16 Jan 2010 09:52 On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:55:34 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > Speaking of old Toyotas, one never sees any of them at old cars shows. > What's up with that? Have to go to the right show... http://www.japaneseclassiccarshow.com/ > > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.01.14.16.16.14.753015(a)e86.GTS... >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:13:49 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >> >>> Actually the term DOOZY is a old term that referred to something being >>> as good as a Duisenberg, one of the finest car ever made. Nothing >>> Toyota ever made can be compared to a Duisenberg. ;) >> >> >> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/03/bonham_auction/image/1969_toyota_2000_gt.jpg >> >> >> >>> <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >>> news:v82tk51ejfi616sd97tqeapfvtc03cc4ap(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:12:55 -0500, "Mike Hunter" >>>> <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>That is probably because it is not a Toyota >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You misunderstood again Mike. >>>> When he said the TL is a Doozy, he meant it was well in the running >>>> for "Ugliest car ever built". >>>> >>>> Beats just about any Toyota less than 15 years old. ( I mean for UGLY, >>>> not for looks) >>>> Some of the old Crowns and Coronas were definitely ugly, but the later >>>> stuff is just "pedestrian". >>>> >>>> For manufacturers,Daihatsu beat Toyota on the ugly scale, and Subaru >>>> has definitely been pushing hard (think Tribeca and WRX) along with >>>> Mitsubishi (the EVO frontend is just an example) but I don't think any >>>> current manufacturer in the North American market has a firm hold on >>>> the title, accross the board. >>>> >>>> They've ALL designed and built and foisted on the American public some >>>> pretty AWFULL designs - along with some real beautys. >>>> >>>> However, beauty is DEFINITELY in the eye of the beholder, and what You >>>> may think is beautiful I may think is horrendous, and Vise Versa. >>>>> >>>>>"tww1491" <twaugh5(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:FJt3n.33110$Gf3.12733(a)newsfe22.iad... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4b4df272$0$7749$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>>>>> They should do a survey of the Ugliest car manufacturer, Toyota >>>>>>> would will hands down LOL >>>>>> I don't know -- the Acura TL is a doozy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> "chronicle" <rca976(a)live.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:a4e44c5e-a999-4ae4-be25-04c2e40d297d(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> x-no-archive:yes >>>>>>> On Jan 12, 7:57 am, Dur >>>>>>> <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote: >>>>>>>> (Car Lust) - Some cars are beautiful, and some ... well, not to >>>>>>>> put too fine a point on it, some cars are not beautiful. The >>>>>>>> proportions are off, or the detailing is overwrought, or a >>>>>>>> prominent design element clashes with the rest of the styling, or >>>>>>>> it's bland and boring, or something's just ... not quite right. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And then there are those select few that are total aesthetic >>>>>>>> disasters. Not just ugly, but dog ugly. Butt ugly. >>>>>>>> Warthog-beaten-with-an-ugly-stick ugly. Cars it hurts just to look >>>>>>>> at. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today's subject is such a car. It was voted "the ugliest car ever >>>>>>>> made" by the readers of CarData, Whether that's exactly right or >>>>>>>> wrong--I can think of a few other contenders for that dubious >>>>>>>> honor--this car is nevertheless one whose body panels insult the >>>>>>>> very steel they were stamped out of. Continue reading only if you >>>>>>>> be men and women of valor, for the styling of this automobile is >>>>>>>> so just plain wrong that it would make even an Aztek owner recoil >>>>>>>> in horror... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Continued: http://xrl.us/UgliestCar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nothing was uglier than the Aztek. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>
From: Mike Hunter on 16 Jan 2010 14:59 That's one show, go to shows around the country and see if you can fine ONE Jap car. LOL "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.01.16.14.52.09.398633(a)e86.GTS... > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:55:34 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> Speaking of old Toyotas, one never sees any of them at old cars shows. >> What's up with that? > > Have to go to the right show... > > http://www.japaneseclassiccarshow.com/ > >> >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2010.01.14.16.16.14.753015(a)e86.GTS... >>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:13:49 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >>> >>>> Actually the term DOOZY is a old term that referred to something being >>>> as good as a Duisenberg, one of the finest car ever made. Nothing >>>> Toyota ever made can be compared to a Duisenberg. ;) >>> >>> >>> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/03/bonham_auction/image/1969_toyota_2000_gt.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>>> <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:v82tk51ejfi616sd97tqeapfvtc03cc4ap(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:12:55 -0500, "Mike Hunter" >>>>> <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>That is probably because it is not a Toyota >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> You misunderstood again Mike. >>>>> When he said the TL is a Doozy, he meant it was well in the running >>>>> for "Ugliest car ever built". >>>>> >>>>> Beats just about any Toyota less than 15 years old. ( I mean for UGLY, >>>>> not for looks) >>>>> Some of the old Crowns and Coronas were definitely ugly, but the later >>>>> stuff is just "pedestrian". >>>>> >>>>> For manufacturers,Daihatsu beat Toyota on the ugly scale, and Subaru >>>>> has definitely been pushing hard (think Tribeca and WRX) along with >>>>> Mitsubishi (the EVO frontend is just an example) but I don't think any >>>>> current manufacturer in the North American market has a firm hold on >>>>> the title, accross the board. >>>>> >>>>> They've ALL designed and built and foisted on the American public some >>>>> pretty AWFULL designs - along with some real beautys. >>>>> >>>>> However, beauty is DEFINITELY in the eye of the beholder, and what You >>>>> may think is beautiful I may think is horrendous, and Vise Versa. >>>>>> >>>>>>"tww1491" <twaugh5(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:FJt3n.33110$Gf3.12733(a)newsfe22.iad... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4b4df272$0$7749$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>>>>>> They should do a survey of the Ugliest car manufacturer, Toyota >>>>>>>> would will hands down LOL >>>>>>> I don't know -- the Acura TL is a doozy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "chronicle" <rca976(a)live.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:a4e44c5e-a999-4ae4-be25-04c2e40d297d(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> x-no-archive:yes >>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 7:57 am, Dur >>>>>>>> <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> (Car Lust) - Some cars are beautiful, and some ... well, not to >>>>>>>>> put too fine a point on it, some cars are not beautiful. The >>>>>>>>> proportions are off, or the detailing is overwrought, or a >>>>>>>>> prominent design element clashes with the rest of the styling, or >>>>>>>>> it's bland and boring, or something's just ... not quite right. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And then there are those select few that are total aesthetic >>>>>>>>> disasters. Not just ugly, but dog ugly. Butt ugly. >>>>>>>>> Warthog-beaten-with-an-ugly-stick ugly. Cars it hurts just to look >>>>>>>>> at. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Today's subject is such a car. It was voted "the ugliest car ever >>>>>>>>> made" by the readers of CarData, Whether that's exactly right or >>>>>>>>> wrong--I can think of a few other contenders for that dubious >>>>>>>>> honor--this car is nevertheless one whose body panels insult the >>>>>>>>> very steel they were stamped out of. Continue reading only if you >>>>>>>>> be men and women of valor, for the styling of this automobile is >>>>>>>>> so just plain wrong that it would make even an Aztek owner recoil >>>>>>>>> in horror... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Continued: http://xrl.us/UgliestCar >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nothing was uglier than the Aztek. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
From: clare on 16 Jan 2010 16:54 On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:55:34 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >Speaking of old Toyotas, one never sees any of them at old cars shows. >What's up with that? > I've seen a Toyota 2000 at a major show - only a couple in North America, as well as several early Corollas and Celicas. I've also seen a very nice blue UP7 (known as the 7-up) - precursor to the Starlet (KP Series) of the early 80s at a local show. > >"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >news:pan.2010.01.14.16.16.14.753015(a)e86.GTS... >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:13:49 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >> >>> Actually the term DOOZY is a old term that referred to something being as >>> good as a Duisenberg, one of the finest car ever made. Nothing Toyota >>> ever made can be compared to a Duisenberg. ;) >> >> >> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/03/bonham_auction/image/1969_toyota_2000_gt.jpg >> >> >>> >>> <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >>> news:v82tk51ejfi616sd97tqeapfvtc03cc4ap(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:12:55 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>That is probably because it is not a Toyota >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You misunderstood again Mike. >>>> When he said the TL is a Doozy, he meant it was well in the running for >>>> "Ugliest car ever built". >>>> >>>> Beats just about any Toyota less than 15 years old. ( I mean for UGLY, >>>> not for looks) >>>> Some of the old Crowns and Coronas were definitely ugly, but the later >>>> stuff is just "pedestrian". >>>> >>>> For manufacturers,Daihatsu beat Toyota on the ugly scale, and Subaru has >>>> definitely been pushing hard (think Tribeca and WRX) along with >>>> Mitsubishi (the EVO frontend is just an example) but I don't think any >>>> current manufacturer in the North American market has a firm hold on the >>>> title, accross the board. >>>> >>>> They've ALL designed and built and foisted on the American public some >>>> pretty AWFULL designs - along with some real beautys. >>>> >>>> However, beauty is DEFINITELY in the eye of the beholder, and what You >>>> may think is beautiful I may think is horrendous, and Vise Versa. >>>>> >>>>>"tww1491" <twaugh5(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:FJt3n.33110$Gf3.12733(a)newsfe22.iad... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4b4df272$0$7749$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>>>>> They should do a survey of the Ugliest car manufacturer, Toyota would >>>>>>> will hands down LOL >>>>>> I don't know -- the Acura TL is a doozy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "chronicle" <rca976(a)live.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:a4e44c5e-a999-4ae4-be25-04c2e40d297d(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> x-no-archive:yes >>>>>>> On Jan 12, 7:57 am, Dur <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> (Car Lust) - Some cars are beautiful, and some ... well, not to put >>>>>>>> too fine a point on it, some cars are not beautiful. The proportions >>>>>>>> are off, or the detailing is overwrought, or a prominent design >>>>>>>> element clashes with the rest of the styling, or it's bland and >>>>>>>> boring, or something's just ... not quite right. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And then there are those select few that are total aesthetic >>>>>>>> disasters. Not just ugly, but dog ugly. Butt ugly. >>>>>>>> Warthog-beaten-with-an-ugly-stick ugly. Cars it hurts just to look >>>>>>>> at. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today's subject is such a car. It was voted "the ugliest car ever >>>>>>>> made" by the readers of CarData, Whether that's exactly right or >>>>>>>> wrong--I can think of a few other contenders for that dubious >>>>>>>> honor--this car is nevertheless one whose body panels insult the >>>>>>>> very steel they were stamped out of. Continue reading only if you be >>>>>>>> men and women of valor, for the styling of this automobile is so >>>>>>>> just plain wrong that it would make even an Aztek owner recoil in >>>>>>>> horror... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Continued: http://xrl.us/UgliestCar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nothing was uglier than the Aztek. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
From: clare on 16 Jan 2010 16:55
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:59:20 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >That's one show, go to shows around the country and see if you can fine ONE >Jap car. LOL > Lots of Datsun 240Z and 510 cars at any show with a motorsport theme. Also at any "import" or "sports car" show. You just don't get out enough Mike. > >"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >news:pan.2010.01.16.14.52.09.398633(a)e86.GTS... >> On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:55:34 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >> >>> Speaking of old Toyotas, one never sees any of them at old cars shows. >>> What's up with that? >> >> Have to go to the right show... >> >> http://www.japaneseclassiccarshow.com/ >> >>> >>> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2010.01.14.16.16.14.753015(a)e86.GTS... >>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:13:49 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually the term DOOZY is a old term that referred to something being >>>>> as good as a Duisenberg, one of the finest car ever made. Nothing >>>>> Toyota ever made can be compared to a Duisenberg. ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/03/bonham_auction/image/1969_toyota_2000_gt.jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:v82tk51ejfi616sd97tqeapfvtc03cc4ap(a)4ax.com... >>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:12:55 -0500, "Mike Hunter" >>>>>> <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>That is probably because it is not a Toyota >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> You misunderstood again Mike. >>>>>> When he said the TL is a Doozy, he meant it was well in the running >>>>>> for "Ugliest car ever built". >>>>>> >>>>>> Beats just about any Toyota less than 15 years old. ( I mean for UGLY, >>>>>> not for looks) >>>>>> Some of the old Crowns and Coronas were definitely ugly, but the later >>>>>> stuff is just "pedestrian". >>>>>> >>>>>> For manufacturers,Daihatsu beat Toyota on the ugly scale, and Subaru >>>>>> has definitely been pushing hard (think Tribeca and WRX) along with >>>>>> Mitsubishi (the EVO frontend is just an example) but I don't think any >>>>>> current manufacturer in the North American market has a firm hold on >>>>>> the title, accross the board. >>>>>> >>>>>> They've ALL designed and built and foisted on the American public some >>>>>> pretty AWFULL designs - along with some real beautys. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, beauty is DEFINITELY in the eye of the beholder, and what You >>>>>> may think is beautiful I may think is horrendous, and Vise Versa. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"tww1491" <twaugh5(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:FJt3n.33110$Gf3.12733(a)newsfe22.iad... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:4b4df272$0$7749$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>>>>>>> They should do a survey of the Ugliest car manufacturer, Toyota >>>>>>>>> would will hands down LOL >>>>>>>> I don't know -- the Acura TL is a doozy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "chronicle" <rca976(a)live.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:a4e44c5e-a999-4ae4-be25-04c2e40d297d(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> x-no-archive:yes >>>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 7:57 am, Dur >>>>>>>>> <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> (Car Lust) - Some cars are beautiful, and some ... well, not to >>>>>>>>>> put too fine a point on it, some cars are not beautiful. The >>>>>>>>>> proportions are off, or the detailing is overwrought, or a >>>>>>>>>> prominent design element clashes with the rest of the styling, or >>>>>>>>>> it's bland and boring, or something's just ... not quite right. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And then there are those select few that are total aesthetic >>>>>>>>>> disasters. Not just ugly, but dog ugly. Butt ugly. >>>>>>>>>> Warthog-beaten-with-an-ugly-stick ugly. Cars it hurts just to look >>>>>>>>>> at. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Today's subject is such a car. It was voted "the ugliest car ever >>>>>>>>>> made" by the readers of CarData, Whether that's exactly right or >>>>>>>>>> wrong--I can think of a few other contenders for that dubious >>>>>>>>>> honor--this car is nevertheless one whose body panels insult the >>>>>>>>>> very steel they were stamped out of. Continue reading only if you >>>>>>>>>> be men and women of valor, for the styling of this automobile is >>>>>>>>>> so just plain wrong that it would make even an Aztek owner recoil >>>>>>>>>> in horror... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Continued: http://xrl.us/UgliestCar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nothing was uglier than the Aztek. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> > |