The Drive-a-Toyota Act
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From: mrv on 29 Jul 2007 17:49 On Jul 29, 3:19 pm, Nza <the...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 3, 3:54 pm, "Cathy F." <clfrc...(a)adelphia.net> wrote: > > > > > I just checked the Toyota's site: the hybrid battery's warranty is for 8 > > years/100K miles. I tend to keep my cars a while, & the longest I've ever > > kept one has been 8 years, the shortest was 4, and usually it's 6 years. I > > personally wouldn't even begin to factor in the possible eventual cost of a > > new battery when deciding on purchasing a hybrid. > > Let's say someone buys the car used after 5 years and the battery > immediately fails. Is the warranty going to cover the new owner? For US Toyotas, the hybrid battery is covered under the hybrid vehicle system warranty for 8 years/100,000 miles, or if in a CA-emissions state (and a AT-PZEV version) by the longer CA emissions warranty for 10 years/150,000 miles. These warranties stay with the vehicle (like the basic new car warranty and powertrain warranty) and transfer to the new owner, and are NOT pro-rated. Now, the 12v lead-acid traditional accessory battery, however... That's usually considered a maintenance item in any car (Toyotas included), so you may need to replace that after 5 years. Because of the special size/posts of the AGM 12v in my 2001 Prius, to get a new 12v from the Toyota dealer last year, along with the setting kit and labor costs, it sadly was in the $300 range. I was too lazy to go for a cheaper route: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/links/Replacement_12V_Clas_001072738257/
From: dold on 29 Jul 2007 18:01 In alt.autos.ford Nza <thenza(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Let's say someone buys the car used after 5 years and the battery > immediately fails. Is the warranty going to cover the new owner? Picking at non-existent nits, making guesses? Ford says: "the warranty is fully transferable to future owners at no cost." > The last time I bought a battery for my 1979 Celica, it was a generic > Advance Auto cheapie battery. I think the same way about the hybrid battery. I probably wouldn't buy a dealer-supplied battery pack. I wouldn't buy cheap... Kragen pro-rated batteries seem like more of a subscription to keep you tied to Kragen than a good deal, but I see no need to buy a battery from a dealer. > I can't understand why someone would *want* a new car.. Well, there you go. 1979? No thanks. I didn't like them in 1979. Someone pointed out to me that their 92 Escort gets 40+mpg "all day long". (That phrase pops up a lot in unsubstantiated conversations.) Someone else at the table noted that their 92 Escort had seen 40 once or twice, but was typically 35-37 on the highway, and less than that around here. The conversation drifted off before I could ask if the Escort had an automatic or a five speed, A/C, maybe power steering. Does it have enough power to get out of its own way going up hill? -- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
From: Edwin Pawlowski on 29 Jul 2007 18:50 <mrv(a)kluge.net> wrote in message > For US Toyotas, the hybrid battery is covered under the hybrid vehicle > system warranty for 8 years/100,000 miles, For me, that is a four year warranty. Not much of an incentive for me. For my wife, it would run the full term.
From: Bonehenge (B A R R Y) on 29 Jul 2007 19:18 On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:01:58 +0000 (UTC), dold(a)12.usenet.us.com wrote: > >Someone pointed out to me that their 92 Escort gets 40+mpg "all day long". >(That phrase pops up a lot in unsubstantiated conversations.) Someone >else at the table noted that their 92 Escort had seen 40 once or twice, but >was typically 35-37 on the highway, and less than that around here. The >conversation drifted off before I could ask if the Escort had an automatic >or a five speed, A/C, maybe power steering. Does it have enough power to >get out of its own way going up hill? I had a '91 4 door Mazda Protege sedan, the 16 valve version of the Escort, with a 5 speed that DID get 39 MPG "all day long". That car is a frequent topic of discussion between my wife and I when ads brag about 30 MPG. FWIW, it actually was a lot of fun to drive all 130,000 miles we put on it, and most definitely did get out of it's own way throughout New England. My Protege was a light and basic car, with only one airbag, non-powered locks, and windows, no ABS or traction control, a basic radio, etc... It did have A/C and power rack and pinion steering. I thought it drove great in sun, snow and rain, and was a great value @ $9100, new.
From: Bonehenge (B A R R Y) on 29 Jul 2007 19:51
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:29:51 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: >In article <ll7qa3164m5858lv4msn4nc27crdt4oq3e(a)4ax.com>, > "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <DwightSchrute(a)DunderMifflin.com> wrote: > >> My Protege was a light and basic car, with only one airbag, >> non-powered locks, and windows, no ABS or traction control, a basic >> radio, etc... > >And that's the whole point. > >I had a 92 Civic Si that could get 41mpg on the highway. Lightweight. >But all the safety features are heavy and cost fuel to drag around. The >world is a WAY different place than it was 25 years ago. I didn't think it NEEDED traction control or ABS. In fact, I've never owned a vehicle with traction control, but I hated the one my employer provided to me. My '99 Jeep doesn't have ABS, and I don't see the big deal in my '01 Outback or my '095 Tacoma. But then again, I can drive, and I know what it means to adjust one's speed to conditions. I slow down when it gets slippery! <G> |