From: C. E. White on

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)> wrote in message
> AT 2K RPS a V8 will be doing 90 MPH ;)

RPS = revolutions per second? If you ever got your V8 to 2K RPS
(120,000 rpm), your V-8 would be on the way to the moon - in pieces.


> mike
> "who" <i(a)> wrote in message
> news:i-2C1043.13410118072007(a)
>> In article <f6oc2o$389$2(a)>, dold(a)
>> wrote:
>>> In Mike Hunter <mikehunt2(a)> wrote:
>>> > You are free to believe whatever you choose. A modern V8 will
>>> > run quite
>>> > efficiently at 1,500 RPMs, even on four cylinders, at 60 MPH.
>>> > Most 4 cy
>>> > engines need to run at nearly twice that number of RPMs at 60
>>> > MPH.
>>> My Honda Civic and Ford Escape 4 cyl both run around 2000 RPM at
>>> 60MPH.
>> A Ford Focus SW I rented last year in the UK went 3,000 rpm at
>> 70mph.
>> My Concord is 2,100 rpm at that speed.

From: mrv on
On Jul 18, 1:54 am, d...(a) wrote:

> There are already D-Cell NiMH batteries available in bulk. A backyard
> mechanic could replace the entire complement of batteries for under $1000.

The original Japan-only NHW10 Prius used the cylindrical cells (like
the D-cells), but beginning with the NHW11 Prius (2001 model year in
the US) they started to use the prismatic (rectangular) cells. I
think the Honda Insight and perhaps the HCH used the cylindrical cells
as well.

I believe that Ford uses hybrid batteries made by Sanyo, while Toyota
and Honda use hybrid batteries from Panasonic EV.

From: CountFloyd on
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:14:01 UTC, RapidRonnie <rapidronnie(a)>

> >
> > > I put the traditional CVT on par with the traditional fluid drive
> > > automatic transmission with respect to complexity and number of failure
> > > points, as well as its proclivity to fail.
> >
> > Don't mention "Fluid Drive" as prone to failure. My 1940 Chrysler has
> > it and it is bulletproof! That was perhaps the best transmission
> > produced.
> >
> Not from a performance and efficiency standpoint.
You are correct, Sir! It is, however, bulletproof, requiring only the
fluid change. It is not bad off the mark, but with the technology of
the day, it was pretty good. I get about 21 mpg with it and the 108hp
six. Remember, back in 1940, cars were more sedate in their

"What do you mean there's no movie?"
From: Nza on
On Jul 18, 1:04 am, RapidRonnie <rapidron...(a)> wrote:
> > > mike
> > The Honda system is just not as good as Toyotas.
> And neither is as good as a TRUE hybrid vehicle: one with a pure
> electric motor and independent gen set.

Yeah, but they won't give us that because it just makes too much
damned sense. Not to mention KILLS EVERYTHING on gas mileage..

From: Nza on
On Jul 3, 3:54 pm, "Cathy F." <clfrc...(a)> wrote:
> I just checked the Toyota's site: the hybrid battery's warranty is for 8
> years/100K miles. I tend to keep my cars a while, & the longest I've ever
> kept one has been 8 years, the shortest was 4, and usually it's 6 years. I
> personally wouldn't even begin to factor in the possible eventual cost of a
> new battery when deciding on purchasing a hybrid.
> Cathy

Let's say someone buys the car used after 5 years and the battery
immediately fails. Is the warranty going to cover the new owner?

The last time I bought a battery for my 1979 Celica, it was a generic
Advance Auto cheapie battery. It was a 24 month battery, but it is
still good. It cost about $60. The toyota cost me $400 from Ebay,
$140 in diesel fuel to drive 1000 miles round trip to get it (it was
in 2000), and $50 for an "in-town" trailer rental..

Once I got the car, I found that the motor needed freshening. I put ~
$800 into the motor and parts for it. I have had to spend $450 on six
tires so far. Replaced the brake master cylinder ($40 ebay), the
clutch master ($25 ebay), the transmission (brother ran it out of
fluid) with one from another parts car (labor only). Replaced the
pitman arm ($30 ebay) and the idler arm ($25 ebay).

Total that and it's $2020. I have no idea what i've spent on gas
over the last 45,000 miles I've put on it in the last 5 years (didn't
drive it for two when i first had it), but around town it gets around
18 - 20 mpg and on the road it gets 28 - 30 mpg at 75 - 80 mph all day

I can't understand why someone would *want* a new car..
Let's just say all those miles were in town, getting 20 mpg, with gas
at $3,00 per gallon. (although i know that more than half of the miles
were highway and significantly LESS than $3,00 a gallon)
45,000 / 20 = 2250 gallons.
2250 * 3 = $6750

$6750 + $2020 = $8770

45,000 miles / $8770 = ~ 5.13 cents per mile.

Now *THAT* is what I call an economy car. I challenge *anyone* with a
new car to come up with an operating cost that low.

Stick that in your tailpipe and smoke it.