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From: who on 18 Jul 2007 16:41 In article <f6oc2o$389$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, dold(a)12.usenet.us.com wrote: > In alt.autos.ford Mike Hunter <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote: > > You are free to believe whatever you choose. A modern V8 will run quite > > efficiently at 1,500 RPMs, even on four cylinders, at 60 MPH. Most 4 cy > > engines need to run at nearly twice that number of RPMs at 60 MPH. > > My Honda Civic and Ford Escape 4 cyl both run around 2000 RPM at 60MPH. A Ford Focus SW I rented last year in the UK went 3,000 rpm at 70mph. My Concord is 2,100 rpm at that speed.
From: Bill Putney on 18 Jul 2007 18:44 Percival P. Cassidy wrote: > On 07/18/07 06:18 am Bill Putney wrote: >> When you say D-cells - you mean flashlight-type D-cells? I doubt if >> the package is very efficient space (round hexagonal close packing vs. >> no intersticial spaces) or weight (each individual cell has its own >> no-value-added-as-far-as-energy shell) wise. Cost efficiency >> ($$/watt-hr) may also be lower, but you'd have to look at the numbers. >> In general, I would think larger and fewer number of whatever would be >> more bang for the buck, lb., cu. ft. Intermediate step towards that: >> UPS batteries. > All the UPS batteries I've ever seen are lead-acid. Hardly a suitable > replacement, if for no other reason than that the charging circuitry > would have to be modified. Oops - you are correct. Wasn't thinking. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
From: Mike Hunter on 18 Jul 2007 19:05 AT 2K RPS a V8 will be doing 90 MPH ;) mike "who" <i(a)notaspammer.net> wrote in message news:i-2C1043.13410118072007(a)news.telus.net... > In article <f6oc2o$389$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, dold(a)12.usenet.us.com wrote: > >> In alt.autos.ford Mike Hunter <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote: >> > You are free to believe whatever you choose. A modern V8 will run >> > quite >> > efficiently at 1,500 RPMs, even on four cylinders, at 60 MPH. Most 4 >> > cy >> > engines need to run at nearly twice that number of RPMs at 60 MPH. >> >> My Honda Civic and Ford Escape 4 cyl both run around 2000 RPM at 60MPH. > > A Ford Focus SW I rented last year in the UK went 3,000 rpm at 70mph. > My Concord is 2,100 rpm at that speed.
From: dold on 18 Jul 2007 21:04 In alt.autos.ford dold(a)12.usenet.us.com wrote: > In alt.autos.ford Bill Putney <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote: > > When you say D-cells - you mean flashlight-type D-cells? I doubt if the > > package is very efficient space (round hexagonal close packing vs. no > > intersticial spaces) or weight (each individual cell has its own I recall that there was an opened battery pack at the Ford Green Tea Tour, where it looked like a bunch of D-Cells, but I can't find a photo. I also recall reading about some intermittent solder connections in the early Insights, showing the batteries, but I can't find those now. What I do find is a picture of the Insight battery pack: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/3q00/honda/insight-2.html It is described as a bunch of D-Cells here and on other sites. -- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
From: C. E. White on 19 Jul 2007 08:15
"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie(a)cbgb.net> wrote in message news:1184735092.616659.18990(a)z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > >> > mike >> >> The Honda system is just not as good as Toyotas. >> > > And neither is as good as a TRUE hybrid vehicle: one with a pure > electric motor and independent gen set. I am not sure that is true. Cars are not trains. Care to cite some numbers to prove this? Ed |