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From: Tomes on 9 Jul 2007 14:43 <dold(a)12.usenet.us.com> ... > Tomes <: >> You can read a lot more about it here: >> http://john1701a.com/prius/documents/Prius_User-Guide.pdf > > The john1701a.com site is full of good information. > Some of the information applies to the Ford Escape Hybrid as well. > > The two neighbors that I have might be typical of Prius owners far > removed > from "John". They don't know much about their cars technically, have > never > offered to take me for a ride just to show off, and have even said some > things that I am fairly sure aren't true. Next time one of those pops > up, > I might revisit John1701a. ;-) > > One bought the car to be green, and really mean it, not to show off to > anyone, as nearly as I can tell. The other just went for the mileage, > without real consideration of the costs. > Glad to help. Try to get into one and then post back into the Toyota group on what you think from the inside. Cheers, Tomes
From: Tomes on 9 Jul 2007 14:46 <mrv(a)kluge.net> com... > "Tomes" : >> "C. E. White" : >> > On the North American Toyota Prius, there is the Coolant Heat Storage >> > System (CHHS). It's a small thermos-like device (actually designed >> > by >> > a Japanese rice-cooker company!) that stores some of the hot engine >> > coolant when the car is turned off, and then will re-insert this hot >> > coolant when the car is started, so that the car has hot coolant and >> > the engine doesn't have to run as long at startup to get to proper >> > operating temperatures. The stored coolant stays at temperature for >> > well over a week. >> >> I did not realize that it held this temperature for quite so long. How >> about that. By the way, it stores about 3 liters of coolant into that >> thermos. > > I mis-remembered the timing. 8( > > http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/Hybrid04.pdf > claims up to 3 days. > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3828/is_200508/ai_n14900166/pg_4 > lists some temperatures, as well as the 3 day statement. > > and you are correct, it is a 3 liter stainless steel dual vaccuum > flask. The 2004 Toyota New Car Features manual on the Prius, page > EG-4, does describe it as a similar construction as a household > Thermos bottle. > Still, 3 days is much more than I was thinking, which was a matter of hours. This is a good thing. Tomes
From: Tomes on 9 Jul 2007 14:49 "George Orwell" ... > Fred : >> >> Wall Street Journal >> "...this [CAFE] debate is a test of who has more clout in today's >> Democratic Congress -- the men and women who work in American >> factories, or the affluent greens on both coasts who can afford to pay >> a premium to own a Prius to indulge their concern about global >> warming." >> complete article: http://curio.us/8h > > Bump > Why?
From: 80 Knight on 9 Jul 2007 15:22 "Tomes" <askme(a)here.net> wrote in message news:Oqvki.5310$rR.4009(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > "George Orwell" ... >> Fred : >>> >>> Wall Street Journal >>> "...this [CAFE] debate is a test of who has more clout in today's >>> Democratic Congress -- the men and women who work in American >>> factories, or the affluent greens on both coasts who can afford to pay >>> a premium to own a Prius to indulge their concern about global warming." >>> complete article: http://curio.us/8h >> >> Bump >> > Why? He is a Troll.
From: Scott in Florida on 9 Jul 2007 22:22
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:33:41 -0400, "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote: >Why not just give us the URL of the IRS website that backs up your >claim? > >Ed He can't, cause it isn't there.... > >"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >news:MsmdnQDDbdC2JxPbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> So do I when I'm wrong. First one must show me where I'm wrong. >> During my sixty some odd years working in the auto business as a >> design engineer, a Group Sales Manager and the owner of a large >> multi-state service business I have accrued a vast knowledge in all >> facets of the business >> >> Simply because you do not know something that someone else does, or >> can not find the information someone has, does not make the other >> person wrong and you right so you can call them names as you so >> often tend do in the NGs. >> >> Yet if someone tried to point out your misunderstanding of the >> subject you chose to comment on, or calls you a name in return, >> because you do not know as much as you think you do, you get all >> bent our of shape. >> >> If someone tells me something about something of which I am not >> aware or have limited knowledge, I try to learn from that >> information. I do not start and argument with them just to be heard >> on the subject. >> >> mike >> >> >> >> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Dfyji.597$MV6.530(a)trnddc01... >>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>> IF a computer dummy like me can, surly an expert searcher like you >>>> should be able to find it. ;) >>>> >>>> mike >>> >>> Why do you have to behave like this? >>> >>> Why not act like an intelligent human being, and just tell us the >>> URL? >>> >>> You acted like this when you claimed that the first digit of the >>> VIN meant something about the content, too. >>> >>> You don't need to act like a spoiled brat or a know-it-all or >>> whatever. >>> >>> When I learn I am wrong, I admit it, as I did when I learned that >>> Ford did indeed start with Volvo's technology. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>>> >>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:b4xji.33$z64.28(a)trnddc07... >>>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>> Based on that you assume it does not exits, naturally LOL >>>>> No, I did not assume it does not exist. I looked for it on the >>>>> IRS site and I looked for it on Google. >>>>> >>>>> I didn't find it. I have no evidence that such a list exists. >>>>> >>>>> Now, if you wish to back your claim, please do so. >>>>> >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>>>> mike >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:0iwji.30$Y_3.21(a)trnddc04... >>>>>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>>>> That may be your opinion, but if you think you are correct you >>>>>>>> had better notify the IRS. There is no listing of any Toyota >>>>>>>> holding company paying any corporate taxes, on the IRS wed >>>>>>>> site. LOL >>>>>>> Can you please tell us the location of the IRS website that >>>>>>> lists which companies pay taxes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't found one that lists the taxes that corporations pay >>>>>>> or even one the lists all the corporate tax payers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JEff >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:afeji.8274$7k7.1410(a)trnddc01... >>>>>>>>> Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Those if favor of "tax" assistance do not think of the fact >>>>>>>>>> they are the ones paying the tax money that is used to >>>>>>>>>> "assist," and that is going to a foreign corporation that >>>>>>>>>> pays NO US federal corporate income taxes ;) >>>>>>>>> But it's US subsidies do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mike >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <dold(a)12.usenet.us.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:f6gclb$dij$3(a)blue.rahul.net... >>>>>>>>>>> In alt.autos.ford Bill Putney <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> You can subtract the $787.50 from the savings because >>>>>>>>>>>> *somenone* (the >>>>>>>>>>>> taxapyer) pays for that. Only if you are a liberal do you >>>>>>>>>>>> ignore such >>>>>>>>>>>> costs. >>>>>>>>>>> Only if there were no hybrids. I would like to thank you >>>>>>>>>>> for paying your >>>>>>>>>>> portion of my rebate, but the source of it doesn't affect >>>>>>>>>>> the fit in my >>>>>>>>>>> pocket. I think of it along the same lines as the >>>>>>>>>>> development cost for >>>>>>>>>>> Velcro, also funded by the taxpayer. >>>> >> >> > -- Scott in Florida There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. Will Rogers (1879 - 1935) |