From: Jeff on
Mike Hunter wrote:
> Based on that you assume it does not exits, naturally LOL

No, I did not assume it does not exist. I looked for it on the IRS site
and I looked for it on Google.

I didn't find it. I have no evidence that such a list exists.

Now, if you wish to back your claim, please do so.

Jeff

> mike
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0iwji.30$Y_3.21(a)trnddc04...
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>> That may be your opinion, but if you think you are correct you had better
>>> notify the IRS. There is no listing of any Toyota holding company paying
>>> any corporate taxes, on the IRS wed site. LOL
>> Can you please tell us the location of the IRS website that lists which
>> companies pay taxes?
>>
>> I haven't found one that lists the taxes that corporations pay or even one
>> the lists all the corporate tax payers.
>>
>> JEff
>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:afeji.8274$7k7.1410(a)trnddc01...
>>>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>>> Those if favor of "tax" assistance do not think of the fact they are
>>>>> the ones paying the tax money that is used to "assist," and that is
>>>>> going to a foreign corporation that pays NO US federal corporate income
>>>>> taxes ;)
>>>> But it's US subsidies do.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>> <dold(a)12.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:f6gclb$dij$3(a)blue.rahul.net...
>>>>>> In alt.autos.ford Bill Putney <bptn(a)kinez.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> You can subtract the $787.50 from the savings because *somenone* (the
>>>>>>> taxapyer) pays for that. Only if you are a liberal do you ignore
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> costs.
>>>>>> Only if there were no hybrids. I would like to thank you for paying
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> portion of my rebate, but the source of it doesn't affect the fit in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> pocket. I think of it along the same lines as the development cost
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Velcro, also funded by the taxpayer.
>
>
From: Jeff on
Mike Hunter wrote:
> You think that because you do not know what at 'trade through' involves,
> dummy. LOL
>
> mike

Instead of calling us names, how about explaining it to us?

Jeff

>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%Puji.27$Y_3.2(a)trnddc04...
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>> Next time do a trade through. By not doing a trade through, when you
>>> sell your old clunker, you are paying higher taxes than needed, dummy
>> First, Mike, there is no need to call people, "dummy." That is not even a
>> good tactic for someone in kindergarten. I would have thought that you are
>> above name-calling.
>>
>> Second, by doing a trade, you save 6% (in PA or whatever the state tax is
>> where you live). If you are able to get more than 6% more by doing a trade
>> yourself, you come out ahead.
>>
>> So if you would sell a car you can sell yourself for $10,000 to a dealer
>> for $9,000, you still come out $400 ahead. Of course, whether it is worth
>> the trouble of selling a car for $400 extra is up to the seller to decide.
>> There is also a risk that you won't get as much as you want and the cost
>> of advertising.
>>
>> It is certainly worth considering a trade, but, if one does his homework
>> first, he should have a good estimate of what he can get for his car
>> selling it himself, and use that to determine whether he is better off
>> trading in the car or trying to sell it himself.
>>
>> (A 2005 Ford 400 AWD has a trade in value of $12,950 and a retail value of
>> $15,325, so a private sale value should be about $10
>>
>> And, if you happen to do the trade in Delaware, where the state tax is 0%,
>> you come out $1000 ahead.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>>
>>> "DH" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
>>> news:468e5710$0$16353$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com...
>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:seKdne_fGqw6wxPbnZ2dnUVZ_r6vnZ2d(a)ptd.net...
>>>>> Are you really that slow witted? Of course the dealership can screw
>>>>> you. How do you think you could screw the dealership?
>>>> If I want a new car, then the dealership will get the opportunity to
>>>> make a profit on the sale. But, since I own highly desireable cars that
>>>> resell well, I'll sell them privately and avoid getting taken on the
>>>> trade.
>>>>
>
From: Mike Hunter on
Are you really that slow? Even if what you say was actually true, you would
only save the tax on the amount of the extra tax one pays by not taking
advantage of a trade through, dummy. LOL

mike


"dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
news:468e68f5$0$16337$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com...
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:W8ydnT_GdabY8RPbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d(a)ptd.net...
>> Next time do a trade through. By not doing a trade through, when you
>> sell your old clunker, you are paying higher taxes than needed, dummy
>>
>> mike
>
> A small amount of tax, which is, itself, tax-deductible.
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Wow somebody has finally done it, Toyota discovered perpetual motion. What
will be next, a Pruis that uses no fuel? You guys are apparently debating
with idiots on this subject LOL

mike


"Tomes" <askme(a)here.net> wrote in message
news:vnuji.4278$rR.4113(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Bill Putney" ...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>> Cars can also have electrically powered water pumps, power steering
>>> pumps, valves, and compressors for the air conditioners, although I
>>> don't know if any do, yet.
>>
>> An honest question: All those things suck energy whether mechanically or
>> electricaly powered (and the power has to ultimately come from the IC
>> engine). For each one, is the electrical version inherently more
>> efficient than a mechanically powered (belt or gear driven) one?
>>
>
> Hi Bill,
> The thing with the Prius is that it generates more energy than it uses
> electrically, overall. There is a screen that shows the state of the
> battery charge at all times. In my Prius, it is near the top most of the
> time (at maybe ~60-70% of charge [the top being 80% and the bottom being
> 20%]), and I have seen it near the low point only in rare and special
> cases (such as using the AC in a traffic jam where regeneration is not
> happening), It even has a mode where it will just spin the engine
> (without any gas used) to get rid of excess electricity as waste heat. I
> have wanted some manner of adjustment to make it use electricity moreso
> because of this.
> Tomes
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Then please show us you know what a trade through means. you response
indicated you do not understand, if you can explain I will take it back ;)

mike


"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B%wji.31$z64.12(a)trnddc07...
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> You think that because you do not know what at 'trade through' involves,
>> dummy. LOL
>>
>> mike
>
> Isn't that special, Mike?
>
> What is sad is that you have to call people names.
>
> Jeff