From: Bill Putney on 5 Jul 2007 06:24 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: > In article <_mZii.3427$bO2.2057(a)trnddc05>, > Jeff <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>And the >>batteries, according to the testing by Toyota, should be good for the >>life of the car. > > > I hate hearing statements like that. > > What that tells me is that Toyota says that when the batteries go out, > by definition you've reached the end of life of the car. > > That does NOT tell me that the batteries last a long time. Bingo Bingo Bingo Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
From: Bill Putney on 5 Jul 2007 06:26 Jeff wrote: > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: > >> In article <_mZii.3427$bO2.2057(a)trnddc05>, >> Jeff <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> And the batteries, according to the testing by Toyota, should be good >>> for the life of the car. >> >> >> I hate hearing statements like that. >> >> What that tells me is that Toyota says that when the batteries go out, >> by definition you've reached the end of life of the car. >> >> That does NOT tell me that the batteries last a long time. > > > Perhaps you should read the referenced article before commenting on one > sentence about the article. > > There is no indication that the life of the batteries are a limiting > factor to the life of the car. All indications are that the batteries do > not wear out. > > Jeff And of course that is proven in real world highways in real world cars over real world ownership time-frame. I think not. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
From: C. E. White on 5 Jul 2007 07:22 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:QoWdnadvktkiNRfbnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > According to "Automotive News" Honda may not offer the Civic hybrid > in 2008. It is more apparent to Honda customers, unlike Toyota buys > how do not thing to compare the Pruis to the Corolla, that the > hybrid is not worth the premium price charged by dealers ;) > > mike The Honda system is just not as good as Toyotas. Ed
From: C. E. White on 5 Jul 2007 07:29 "Smitty Two" <prestwhich(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:prestwhich-FBEE4E.07282704072007(a)news.phx.highwinds-media.com... >> Honda threw away a BUNCH of their reputation in those two fiascos. > > OTOH, my mechanic, after *40 years* of fixing cars, replaced his > *first* > Toyota transmission last year. And this proves what? That nobody owned Toyotas for 35 years? That your mechanic worked mostly on American cars? That most Toyota owners take their cars to the dealer for service? I had one Toyota with a crapped out automatic. One of my neighbors had to rebuild the transmission in his Toyota truck twice. None of this proves anything. Ed
From: Smitty Two on 5 Jul 2007 08:33
In article <468cd68c$1(a)kcnews01>, "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote: > "Smitty Two" <prestwhich(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:prestwhich-FBEE4E.07282704072007(a)news.phx.highwinds-media.com... > > >> Honda threw away a BUNCH of their reputation in those two fiascos. > > > > OTOH, my mechanic, after *40 years* of fixing cars, replaced his > > *first* > > Toyota transmission last year. > > And this proves what? That nobody owned Toyotas for 35 years? That > your mechanic worked mostly on American cars? That most Toyota owners > take their cars to the dealer for service? I had one Toyota with a > crapped out automatic. One of my neighbors had to rebuild the > transmission in his Toyota truck twice. None of this proves anything. > > Ed Have another cup of coffee, Ed. I wasn't trying to "prove" anything. Did I attempt to draw a *single* conclusion from this *single* anecdotal data point? No. But since you want to tussle, I'll say this: My mechanic, who's more competent than any twelve average mechanics combined, thinks that Toyota transmissions are the best god damn transmissions money can buy, period. Now, you wanna argue with him, go talk to him, not me. |