From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:26:13 -0700, SMS wrote:

> Mark A wrote:
>> "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Yd5gk.8594$L_.1401(a)flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>> Similarly, I've been drinking fresh ground arabica coffee for 15 years,
>>> after switching from pre-ground robusta and my body is still operating at
>>> peak efficiency. It must be the arabica beans.
>>
>> Your body may be OK, but your brain is fried.
>
> What you need to do is to learn about causal relationships. You've
> attributed your use of synthetic oil to your engine running smoothly
> after ten years, when in fact there is no relationship between the two.
> Your engine would be equally smooth running on oil with a petroleum base
> stock.

However, there seems to be a direct relationship to you being a Liberal
and a general all-around dumbass.

What the hell's he going to do, change something that he's proven to work
because *YOU* say so?

I'll make a bet with you: I have been running my tC on Castrol Syntec
since *my* first oil change at 12,000 miles, then again at 16,500, and
then again at 21,000. *YOU* guarantee you'll get me a *BRAND NEW* 2.4
liter engine if something goes wrong, and I'll follow your recommendations.

Otherwise, I'll stick to what has been working for me, which is basically
what has been working for Mark.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:55:00 -0400, Mark A wrote:

>
> Now, since you don't even use synthetic oil, how come you are telling me I
> am wrong?

Dude, I don't even think he knows what a car is...



From: Mike hunt on
To replace your ten year old Toyota you will need to come up with around
$30,000. Me thinks that is more likey the reason you are hanging on to one
that old ;)

"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Mark A wrote:
>
>> I can tell you from my own experience that I switched to Mobil 1
>> synthetic on my 1998 Camry V6 at 5K miles and now I have a problem. The
>> engine is so smooth after more than 10 years that I can't find any
>> justification to buy a new car.
>
> I have the same problem with my 1996 Camry. I've been using 5W-30
> non-synthetic for 12 years, and the engine is so smooth that I can't find
> any justification to buy a new car.
>
> Similarly, I've been drinking fresh ground arabica coffee for 15 years,
> after switching from pre-ground robusta and my body is still operating at
> peak efficiency. It must be the arabica beans.


From: Mike hunt on
If you did a search you will discover the real foots are those who change
oil that often. All manufacturers today recommanda 5,000 or more. But
then again with Toyotas "gelling problem" maybe 3000 miles might be a good
idea at that. ;)

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.07.18.19.22.36.911505(a)e86.GTS...
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:29:45 -0700, SMS wrote:
>
>> Mark A wrote:
>>>> <nm5k(a)wt.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4bb27c86-077d-4eae-8d02-ecdd0bf197ed(a)d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> But I don't agree with the ones that use synth oil as an excuse
>>>> to extend oil change skeds..
>>>> I think that's just plain dumb, even if you used liquid gold as oil
>>>> and the best filter money can buy.
>>>
>>> OTOH, there are people who change their conventional oil every 3,000
>>> miles.
>>
>> Few people are still clueless enough to do 3000 mile oil changes (unless
>> they own a very old vehicle).
>
> Damn right I change conventional oil at 3,000 miles!
> You're a fool if you don't.
>
> And I change my synthetic at 4,500.
>
>


From: Mike hunt on
Because if he waits too much longer he will need to come up with around
$40,000 the way Toyotas prices are going up. LOL

"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn(a)outa.here> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:06:20 -0400, "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22(a)lycos.com>
> wrote:
>
>>To replace your ten year old Toyota you will need to come up with around
>>$30,000. Me thinks that is more likey the reason you are hanging on to
>>one
>>that old ;)
>
> Why replace a perfectly good automobile?
>
>
>>
>>"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:Yd5gk.8594$L_.1401(a)flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>> Mark A wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can tell you from my own experience that I switched to Mobil 1
>>>> synthetic on my 1998 Camry V6 at 5K miles and now I have a problem. The
>>>> engine is so smooth after more than 10 years that I can't find any
>>>> justification to buy a new car.
>>>
>>> I have the same problem with my 1996 Camry. I've been using 5W-30
>>> non-synthetic for 12 years, and the engine is so smooth that I can't
>>> find
>>> any justification to buy a new car.
>>>
>>> Similarly, I've been drinking fresh ground arabica coffee for 15 years,
>>> after switching from pre-ground robusta and my body is still operating
>>> at
>>> peak efficiency. It must be the arabica beans.
>>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida