From: Rastamon on 9 Jun 2010 14:37
"(PeteCresswell)" <x(a)y.Invalid> wrote in message
> Being ergonomically challenged, I need that 2" of head room that
> a moon roof eats up.
> But every Sequoia I've seen so far has had a moon roof.
> Are they just not importing them in without moon roofs?
I'm curious, How tall are you? Most tall people just tilt the seat back.
From: C. E. White on 9 Jun 2010 16:08
"Rastamon" <rasta(a)dakine.com.invalid> wrote in message
> "(PeteCresswell)" <x(a)y.Invalid> wrote in message
>> Being ergonomically challenged, I need that 2" of head room that
>> a moon roof eats up.
>> But every Sequoia I've seen so far has had a moon roof.
>> Are they just not importing them in without moon roofs?
> I'm curious, How tall are you? Most tall people just tilt the seat
But I like sitting upright and I don't like having a hole in the roof.
If I want open air motoring, I want a convertible (I've had six). I
have read far to many tales of horror regarding plugged moon roof
drain tubes, failed motors, stuck shades, etc to make it attractive to
me to pay for a hole in the roof that at best does nothing I want
while costing hundreds/thousands to buy. I suppose I could pull the
sun shade and pretend it wasn't there...at least until the drain holes
plug-up becasue I sometimes park under a tree, but I'd still be mad
about the missing head room.
From: (PeteCresswell) on 9 Jun 2010 21:34
>I'm curious, How tall are you? Most tall people just tilt the seat back.
6'5", not particularly long in the body, quite long-legged.
In addition to personal preference/comfort, I perceive safety
issues with tilting the seat back.
1) When you crash, your body is slammed forward about 8" and
upward I-don't-know-how-many inches - but it's a good bit
as your bod pivots on your locked legs.
Lower Roof ==> Greater Chance Of Spinal Cord Injury.
Just my opinion, but it seems pretty obvious to me.
2) You lean back far enough and something called "submarining"
sets in when there's a crash. Instead of the straps
restraining you, your bod slides forward underneath them.
I do not know how much tilt is needed for that to happen,
but I don't like driving leaning back anyhow. The old Euro
"arms extended" driving position makes me tired after a few
hours. I find it more comfortable to have my hands on the
wheel and my elbows resting on the arm rests.
Maybe we get more cautious with age.
Now that I think about it... and recalling the time I rode
through Waikiki and back to Hickam Air Force base with one foot
on the front bumper, leaning into the engine room with the hood
on my shoulders, pouring gasoline into the carb of an engine
whose fuel pump had failed.....
We definitely get more cautious with age.... -)