From: Pete C. on

hls wrote:
>
> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:xt49o.59094
> >
> > BTW, on this car, it WILL remember what speed you have set until you
> > either turn the cruise off, or shut the car off. So, if you were doing 75
> > on the highway, and come into town, and accidently hit the stalk and
> > select "Resume"...
> >
> > I did this accidently once, and the car responded by taking off at
> > lightning speed; but pressing the brake (far enough) stopped this.
> >
>
> I have noticed something a little similar with the Avalon. If you have the
> cruise set at some relatively high speed and then kick the cruise off
> by using the brakes or the cruise lever, and then you want to resume
> speed, the car accelerates vigorously enough to unnerve some people.
>
> In my case, the brakes always stop it, or it will stop accelerating as
> soon as it reaches the target speed, but it goes like a dragster until
> it reaches that target speed.
>
> Probably Toyota would have avoided some of the frightened complaints
> had they programmed this feature to accelerate a little less vigorously.

The Ford Super Duty diesel trucks had that issue at one point and it was
resolved with a software update. I expect the software was outsourced to
some programmers in a third world country who had never actually driven
a motor vehicle and didn't have any idea why you might not want to
resume cruise control at full throttle in a 350 HP vehicle.
From: MG on


"Bill Vanek" <bilvanek(a)invalid.com> wrote in message
news:grka66dgmfiduj8dht1vk7cu7to82scjhm(a)4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 01:10:53 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
> wrote:
>
>>It seems I had depressed the pedal enough to make the pads grab, but not
>>enough to trip the brake light! So, the cruise control added some more
>>juice!
>
> This is something Toyota would be interested in hearing, but they are
> probably already aware of this as a potential problem. Offhand, I
> can't think of anything else that would tell the car to stop
> depressing the accelerator once the brake-applied signal is lost. But
> I could be forgetting something.

Or you could drive the car yourself, and skip all the inherent problems of
cruise control. Never-turned-on cruise control never malfunctions.

From: Pete C. on

MG wrote:
>
> "Bill Vanek" <bilvanek(a)invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:grka66dgmfiduj8dht1vk7cu7to82scjhm(a)4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 01:10:53 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>It seems I had depressed the pedal enough to make the pads grab, but not
> >>enough to trip the brake light! So, the cruise control added some more
> >>juice!
> >
> > This is something Toyota would be interested in hearing, but they are
> > probably already aware of this as a potential problem. Offhand, I
> > can't think of anything else that would tell the car to stop
> > depressing the accelerator once the brake-applied signal is lost. But
> > I could be forgetting something.
>
> Or you could drive the car yourself, and skip all the inherent problems of
> cruise control. Never-turned-on cruise control never malfunctions.

Yes, however the never removed from the accelerator pedal foot tends to
cramp well within the cruising range of most vehicles.
From: dr_jeff on
Pete C. wrote:
> MG wrote:
>> "Bill Vanek" <bilvanek(a)invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:grka66dgmfiduj8dht1vk7cu7to82scjhm(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 01:10:53 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems I had depressed the pedal enough to make the pads grab, but not
>>>> enough to trip the brake light! So, the cruise control added some more
>>>> juice!
>>> This is something Toyota would be interested in hearing, but they are
>>> probably already aware of this as a potential problem. Offhand, I
>>> can't think of anything else that would tell the car to stop
>>> depressing the accelerator once the brake-applied signal is lost. But
>>> I could be forgetting something.
>> Or you could drive the car yourself, and skip all the inherent problems of
>> cruise control. Never-turned-on cruise control never malfunctions.
>
> Yes, however the never removed from the accelerator pedal foot tends to
> cramp well within the cruising range of most vehicles.

Also, the cruise-controlled car tends to stay within a narrow range of
speeds, which limits the urge that police have to pull you over.

Jeff
From: N8N on
On Aug 13, 1:20 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> Pete C. wrote:
> > MG wrote:
> >> "Bill Vanek" <bilva...(a)invalid.com> wrote in message
> >>news:grka66dgmfiduj8dht1vk7cu7to82scjhm(a)4ax.com...
> >>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 01:10:53 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> It seems I had depressed the pedal enough to make the pads grab, but not
> >>>> enough to trip the brake light! So, the cruise control added some more
> >>>> juice!
> >>> This is something Toyota would be interested in hearing, but they are
> >>> probably already aware of this as a potential problem. Offhand, I
> >>> can't think of anything else that would tell the car to stop
> >>> depressing the accelerator once the brake-applied signal is lost. But
> >>> I could be forgetting something.
> >> Or you could drive the car yourself, and skip all the inherent problems of
> >> cruise control.  Never-turned-on cruise control never malfunctions.
>
> > Yes, however the never removed from the accelerator pedal foot tends to
> > cramp well within the cruising range of most vehicles.
>
> Also, the cruise-controlled car tends to stay within a narrow range of
> speeds, which limits the urge that police have to pull you over.

That is most often why I use the cruise. My natural tendency is to at
least keep up with other traffic if not to cruise slightly faster than
the median speed, which is not good if one is trying to maintain a
clean driving record.

nate