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From: homepc on 3 May 2010 17:48
I've been giving some though to undercoating my car this year with Rust
Check. Has anyone had any negative experiences with the product?


From: Ray O on 4 May 2010 01:21

"homepc" <wiebe008(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've been giving some though to undercoating my car this year with Rust
> Check. Has anyone had any negative experiences with the product?

I'm not sure about Toyota Canada, but Toyota Motor Sales USA recommends not
applying any additional undercoating or rustproofing because some
rustproofing application methods and products actually promote rust because
some drill holes in body panels and rust appears where the paint was broken
during drilling, or the rustproofing material traps moisture and promotes
rust. I've seen rustproofing material foul linkages, seat belt retractors,
and window regulators, clog drain holes in doors, and soften plastic and
rubber gaskets.

Drippy stuff like Rust Check is probably less likely to trap moisture or
clog drain holes and if it is applied without drilling holes, it wouldn't
damage the paint during application, but I do not have any experience with
the product.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: supraman_88 on 4 May 2010 15:59
On Tue, 04 May 2010 00:21:04 -0500, Ray O wrote:

>
> "homepc" <wiebe008(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hrngam$qmb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> I've been giving some though to undercoating my car this year with Rust
>> Check. Has anyone had any negative experiences with the product?
>
> I'm not sure about Toyota Canada, but Toyota Motor Sales USA recommends
> not applying any additional undercoating or rustproofing because some
> rustproofing application methods and products actually promote rust
> because some drill holes in body panels and rust appears where the paint
> was broken during drilling, or the rustproofing material traps moisture
> and promotes rust. I've seen rustproofing material foul linkages, seat
> belt retractors, and window regulators, clog drain holes in doors, and
> soften plastic and rubber gaskets.
>
> Drippy stuff like Rust Check is probably less likely to trap moisture or
> clog drain holes and if it is applied without drilling holes, it wouldn't
> damage the paint during application, but I do not have any experience with
> the product.

I like hydraulic oil, myself.

PS, how's the hinge search? I still haven't run across any :(

From: Ray O on 4 May 2010 16:59

"supraman_88" <ma70(a)7M.GE> wrote in message
news:hrpubu$1st$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On Tue, 04 May 2010 00:21:04 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>
>>
>> "homepc" <wiebe008(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hrngam$qmb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> I've been giving some though to undercoating my car this year with Rust
>>> Check. Has anyone had any negative experiences with the product?
>>
>> I'm not sure about Toyota Canada, but Toyota Motor Sales USA recommends
>> not applying any additional undercoating or rustproofing because some
>> rustproofing application methods and products actually promote rust
>> because some drill holes in body panels and rust appears where the paint
>> was broken during drilling, or the rustproofing material traps moisture
>> and promotes rust. I've seen rustproofing material foul linkages, seat
>> belt retractors, and window regulators, clog drain holes in doors, and
>> soften plastic and rubber gaskets.
>>
>> Drippy stuff like Rust Check is probably less likely to trap moisture or
>> clog drain holes and if it is applied without drilling holes, it wouldn't
>> damage the paint during application, but I do not have any experience
>> with
>> the product.
>
> I like hydraulic oil, myself.
>
> PS, how's the hinge search? I still haven't run across any :(
>

ATF also works since it doesn't eat plastic.

I've kinda given up on the hinge search. The new office I'm working out of
provides a computer so my old Dell only gets used for personal stuff.
Compared to my 5 year old Dell, the Lenovo for work rocks. The thing I
don't like about it is that it is heavy compared to the Dell D410 and it
doesn't have bluetooth so I have to use a mouse with a dongle instead of
just connecting the BT mouse to the laptop.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: supraman_88 on 4 May 2010 18:13
On Tue, 04 May 2010 15:59:40 -0500, Ray O wrote:

>> PS, how's the hinge search? I still haven't run across any :(
>>
>>
> ATF also works since it doesn't eat plastic.
>
> I've kinda given up on the hinge search. The new office I'm working out
> of provides a computer so my old Dell only gets used for personal stuff.
> Compared to my 5 year old Dell, the Lenovo for work rocks.
GAAH! you said "Lenovo"!

Considering they were making Thinkpads for IBM for a while, they should be
good. Some of the older designs, esp the later model Thinkpads were
nightmares. Talk about a jigswa puzzle! ( I was going to correct that, but
it fits the situation quite well...)

But they are becoming the supplier of choice since they are aggressively
persuing the markets. One place is running out of the warranties on thier
laptops, and are replacing them with Lenovos. Dell didn't submit a bid on
the desktops, and the bid for laptops was "rediculous", so they chose the
Lenovos. They were a big contract, too... :(

There is also a school nereby here that will be purchasing Lenovos the
next time around, based on price. Again, another big contract down the
tubes.


You could very well apply what's happening to Toyota right now to Dell. A
former high-quality manufacturer taking a hit from trying to expand too
fast. We know Toyota will smarten up...


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