From: E. Meyer on



On 9/17/09 7:15 PM, in article JiAsm.10752$944.6225(a)newsfe09.iad, "dsi1"
<dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote:

> dbu` wrote:
>>
>> Shift to N and bail out after stopping. Let the damn thing self
>> destruct.
>
> Shifting to N won't slow you down much - better to go to through the
> lower gears. Slam it into park when you think you're slow enough...

Same problem as the (lack of an) ignition switch. These new computer
controlled cars won't go into a lower gear if the ECU decides it will make
the engine over-rev. You can select it, but nothing will happen.

From: a on
E. Meyer wrote:
>
>
> On 9/17/09 7:15 PM, in article JiAsm.10752$944.6225(a)newsfe09.iad, "dsi1"
> <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote:
>
>> dbu` wrote:
>>> Shift to N and bail out after stopping. Let the damn thing self
>>> destruct.
>> Shifting to N won't slow you down much - better to go to through the
>> lower gears. Slam it into park when you think you're slow enough...
>
> Same problem as the (lack of an) ignition switch. These new computer
> controlled cars won't go into a lower gear if the ECU decides it will make
> the engine over-rev. You can select it, but nothing will happen.
>

Wait - were the brakes inoperable too? Because shifting to neutral and
braking normally would have worked just fine.

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From: Scott Dorsey on
Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I drove (rode) my BMW dead-stick down a mountain road for about 7 miles.
>Steering was no problem, brake effort was high, but not a problem.

Shoulda got an E28. You get several minutes of braking with the engine
off, courtesy of the nitrogen ball.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
From: Ray O on

"dsi1" <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote in message
news:JiAsm.10752$944.6225(a)newsfe09.iad...
> dbu` wrote:
>>
>> Shift to N and bail out after stopping. Let the damn thing self
>> destruct.
>
> Shifting to N won't slow you down much - better to go to through the lower
> gears. Slam it into park when you think you're slow enough...

The electronically controlled will not allow downshifting if vehicle speed
and engine RPM are out of range for a particular gear, although it should
come out of overdrive. It will allow shifting into neutral.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Jeff Strickland on

"Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message
news:h90c5d$83k$1(a)panix2.panix.com...
> Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>I drove (rode) my BMW dead-stick down a mountain road for about 7 miles.
>>Steering was no problem, brake effort was high, but not a problem.
>
> Shoulda got an E28. You get several minutes of braking with the engine
> off, courtesy of the nitrogen ball.
> --scott

I had several minutes of braking with my E36, but at 60mph deadsticking down
the hill, it goes away long before the hill is gone.

PS
You dont get several minutes, you get several applications, and dead-stick
driving tends to use them up sooner than you might expect. When the motor is
running, I can select a gear that lets me do the same hill and use the
brakes just a few times in 7 miles, but when the engine is off, the need for
brakes is much higher ;-)