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From: SMS on 29 Sep 2009 12:59 I want to replace the radio on my 4Runner soon, before a long road trip to the Giant Pit in Arizona. Required 1. Front analog audio input (we have some non-iPod smart phones and MP3 players that we might want to plug in) 2. Front USB port (we like to listen to audio books and it's a lot easier to rip them from CD's to a flash drive and not load them onto an iPod or MP3 player), and I don't really want to run a USB extension cable from the back of the receiver (kind of weird to have rear auxiliary and USB ports). 3. iPod interface built in (not an extra-cost add-on) 4. Bluetooth built in (not an extra-cost add-on) 5. Removable faceplate I don't care much about HD or satellite radio capability. I'd prefer a double-DIN, but that doesn't appear to be an option. The one Double-DIN unit that's even close that comes up at Crutchfield says "does not fit" which is strange that it comes up at all since I'm searching only for things that fit. At Crutchfield, the only unit that comes up is the Dual XHD7714. One strange thing about this unit is that both the USB and auxiliary input connections must be made when connecting the iPod cable, so it's taking the audio over the analog input, and the control over USB.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 29 Sep 2009 18:05 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:59:48 -0700, SMS wrote: > I want to replace the radio on my 4Runner soon, before a long road trip to > the Giant Pit in Arizona. > > Required > > 1. Front analog audio input (we have some non-iPod smart phones and MP3 > players that we might want to plug in) > > 2. Front USB port (we like to listen to audio books and it's a lot easier > to rip them from CD's to a flash drive and not load them onto an iPod or > MP3 player), and I don't really want to run a USB extension cable from the > back of the receiver (kind of weird to have rear auxiliary and USB ports). > > 3. iPod interface built in (not an extra-cost add-on) > > 4. Bluetooth built in (not an extra-cost add-on) > > 5. Removable faceplate > > I don't care much about HD or satellite radio capability. > > I'd prefer a double-DIN, but that doesn't appear to be an option. The one > Double-DIN unit that's even close that comes up at Crutchfield says "does > not fit" which is strange that it comes up at all since I'm searching only > for things that fit. > > At Crutchfield, the only unit that comes up is the Dual XHD7714. One > strange thing about this unit is that both the USB and auxiliary input > connections must be made when connecting the iPod cable, so it's taking > the audio over the analog input, and the control over USB. Unfortunately, you didn't say what year, so I kind of middle-of-the roaded it and entered 2004. This is what JVC has: http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?productId=PRD3201300&pathId=54 Odd, like you mentioned none of the Double DIN radios came up! It must be some weird proprietary setup Toyota has, perhaps more pertaining to depth than the dimensions of the opening. These are their D-D receivers: http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?pathId=148 JVC makes great sounding stuff, but the AM has crapped out on two units, the SAME model installed in my Scion and my Supra! I guess you won't be listening to Rush if this happens to you. ;p Note that these were ourchased on eBay. The FM, rear inputs (I had to buy an additional cable) and CD are GREAT! I have a tendancy to keep my radios for a LONG time so I put up with stuff other people wouldn't. That's all I've had for a while. The others I have had were an AIWA CD player, again, a great piece of equipment, but it didn't play MP3s, and Sonys (AIWA is made by Sony). That's all I've had for a while. The Alpine receivers I had were JUNK, albeit they were freebies out of cars that were traded in, but they weren't that old! People tell me if you want good stuff from Alpine, you have to go to the high-end stuff. Also, Fujitsu-Ten makes very durable equipment, the CDs sound great but the radios kind of fall off a bit short, and Clarion goes the other way; great radios but CD sound lacks a bit. As far as the opening, you can get a pocket http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006HF8Y0 or Metra http://www.metraonline.com/fitl.aspx Interesting, the Metra site said "Corporate Double-Din" for opening size. Perhaps another oyota or Scion radio would work. The Scions have an option for iPod connections. You could try eBay for a radio. They sound good. BTW, all the options I see say "JBL sound system". Is that what you have?
From: Jeff Strickland on 29 Sep 2009 19:36 "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message news:4ac23cc3$0$1646$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >I want to replace the radio on my 4Runner soon, before a long road trip to >the Giant Pit in Arizona. > > Required > > 1. Front analog audio input (we have some non-iPod smart phones and MP3 > players that we might want to plug in) > > 2. Front USB port (we like to listen to audio books and it's a lot easier > to rip them from CD's to a flash drive and not load them onto an iPod or > MP3 player), and I don't really want to run a USB extension cable from the > back of the receiver (kind of weird to have rear auxiliary and USB ports). > > 3. iPod interface built in (not an extra-cost add-on) > > 4. Bluetooth built in (not an extra-cost add-on) > > 5. Removable faceplate > > I don't care much about HD or satellite radio capability. > > I'd prefer a double-DIN, but that doesn't appear to be an option. The one > Double-DIN unit that's even close that comes up at Crutchfield says "does > not fit" which is strange that it comes up at all since I'm searching only > for things that fit. > > At Crutchfield, the only unit that comes up is the Dual XHD7714. One > strange thing about this unit is that both the USB and auxiliary input > connections must be made when connecting the iPod cable, so it's taking > the audio over the analog input, and the control over USB. The standard radio unit is called a DIN -- I'm not sure what DIN is, and don't much care but it refers to the vertical dimension of the radio unit. There are a few radio units that are very wide, but most are pretty much the same size, DIN. For the sake of this discussion, DIN refers to the vertical dimension of the radio unit, the horizontal dimensions are the same (except for a small number of exceptions, the 4Runner not among them). Crutchfield should have a complete discription of the DIN specification. There are options of DIN, DIN and a half, and Double DIN. If you have a DIN and a half, or Double DIN, you can buy a mask and install a DIN. But if you have a DIN, you can't install a DIN and a half or a Double DIN. You can install a smaller radio unit than what you have, but you cannot install a larger one. As for Satellite radio, I say you should give it serious consideration, ESPECIALLY for cross country travel. They have books-on-tape on XM. A DIN and a half should include a CD player, so your books on tape should play directly without converting them to a USB drive or MP3 player. But DIN is basically the vertical dimension of any radio unit. DIN and a half is 150% of DIN, and Double DIN is 200%. You can buy a mask to make a small radio fit into a large hole, but there's no way to make a large radio fit into a small hole. ..
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 1 Oct 2009 20:18
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:59:48 -0700, SMS wrote: > I want to replace the radio on my 4Runner soon, before a long road trip to > the Giant Pit in Arizona. Have you had any luck finding an alternative? I spoke to a guitar player I know from another band who is a pro installer, and he said the 'Double DIN' on this is NOT an industry standard double DIN. The sad part about this is DIN is a German 'standard' (Deutches Institut fur Normung) (German Institute for Normality?) that is supposed to be, uh, *STANDARD*, and Toyota bastardizes it by coming up with a "Corporate Double DIN"... > > Required > > 1. Front analog audio input (we have some non-iPod smart phones and MP3 > players that we might want to plug in) > > 2. Front USB port (we like to listen to audio books and it's a lot easier > to rip them from CD's to a flash drive and not load them onto an iPod or > MP3 player), and I don't really want to run a USB extension cable from the > back of the receiver (kind of weird to have rear auxiliary and USB ports). > > 3. iPod interface built in (not an extra-cost add-on) > > 4. Bluetooth built in (not an extra-cost add-on) > > 5. Removable faceplate > > I don't care much about HD or satellite radio capability. > > I'd prefer a double-DIN, but that doesn't appear to be an option. The one > Double-DIN unit that's even close that comes up at Crutchfield says "does > not fit" which is strange that it comes up at all since I'm searching only > for things that fit. > > At Crutchfield, the only unit that comes up is the Dual XHD7714. One > strange thing about this unit is that both the USB and auxiliary input > connections must be made when connecting the iPod cable, so it's taking > the audio over the analog input, and the control over USB. |