From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:18:35 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

>> The factual misrepresentation was really factually correct. Sorry to
>> confuse you with facts, but that happens alot with you.
>
>
> I'm focused on the Hack's use of the word "government" in his statement:
>
>
> "That there's a real good reason for not letting ANY government involved
> in healthcare. At all."
>
>
> However, I find this mentioned by many reliable sources:
>
> "But many wealthy countries -- including Germany, the Netherlands, Japan
> and Switzerland -- provide universal coverage using private doctors,
> private hospitals and private insurance plans."

That's all well and good, IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY and people that KNOW WHAT
THE HELL THEY ARE DOING. We have neither.



From: anniejrs on
On Sep 5, 5:51 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> My '88 Supra.
>
> Sometimes, if I turn the wheels and come to a stop, when I go to start off
> again it feels like something is loose in the rear end. It's like a shift
> from one side to the other. This car has the LSD option.
>
> Of course, I crawled around under the car and everything is tight.
> I need to bleed the brakes, and probably need new pads and rotors for the
> rear, but that will probably wait until spring. When I do lift the rear
> end, I'll check the shafts, but when I had it up last year they seemed
> fine. A cursory check shows boots OK, no rips or tears.
>
> I have access to another LSD rear end. The current one is full of gear oil
> (fresh drain and fill last summer) with a proper LSD additive. When I
> first did the change last year, it went away for a short time.
>
> I checked the level the other day, and it is full.
>
> Maybe I'll try some more additive...?

I had a car that did the same thing, it was a radial tire that was
separating. Check your tires, you can spot the problem easily
From: Ray O on

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.09.07.14.44.05.533858(a)e86.GTS...
> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:57:42 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.09.07.04.42.53.657819(a)e86.GTS...
>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:28:23 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2009.09.06.00.51.35.27850(a)e86.GTS...
>>>>> My '88 Supra.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes, if I turn the wheels and come to a stop, when I go to start
>>>>> off
>>>>> again it feels like something is loose in the rear end. It's like a
>>>>> shift
>>>>> from one side to the other. This car has the LSD option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I crawled around under the car and everything is tight. I
>>>>> need to bleed the brakes, and probably need new pads and rotors for
>>>>> the
>>>>> rear, but that will probably wait until spring. When I do lift the
>>>>> rear end, I'll check the shafts, but when I had it up last year they
>>>>> seemed fine. A cursory check shows boots OK, no rips or tears.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have access to another LSD rear end. The current one is full of gear
>>>>> oil
>>>>> (fresh drain and fill last summer) with a proper LSD additive. When I
>>>>> first did the change last year, it went away for a short time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I checked the level the other day, and it is full.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'll try some more additive...?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> When you say "turn the wheels" do you mean rotate the rear wheels or do
>>>> you
>>>> mean turn the steering wheel?
>>>
>>> Yeah. Steering wheel. If I come to a stop straight on, it usually
>>> doesn't do it. Esp if I have just come out of a turn oney way, turn the
>>> wheels (steering whel) to set up for a turn in the opposite direction,
>>> come to a stop and then go, it exhibits this problem. Also, note too
>>> that the U-Joints are SHOT!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Assuming that the car hasn't always behaved like that and that "turning
>>>> the
>>>> wheels" means turning the steering wheel, check:
>>>>
>>>> Lug nut torque, make sure the rear wheels are properly seated and tires
>>>> inflated.
>>>
>>> This is all OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Suspension mounts, bushings, springs - play in a part that controls
>>>> lateral
>>>> movement of the rear end, crushed or hardened bushings., etc.
>>>
>>> Old springs (20 years...) bad shocks (I have no idea...) crushed,
>>> hardened, crumbling bushings. It's a bit hard to find bushings. There is
>>> a guy that actually contacted a company in his area, made molds from a
>>> good set of bushings, and sells polyurethane bushings front and rear for
>>> this car, but they are stiff. Better than what I have, though. I'm going
>>> to do the entire suspension either before I put the car away for the
>>> winter, or next spring. I have a set of springs that have ~20,000 miles
>>> on them.
>>>
>>>
>> Any of this stuff could cause the condition, but you would probably also
>> have symptoms when driving.
>>
>>
>>> The front bushings, on the lower control arm cannot be bought separate
>>> otherwise. To get them from Toyota you have to buy the entire lower
>>> control arm for $200 each...
>>
>> Ouch!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Look for rips in the CV joint boots, grease on the underbody, etc.
>>>
>>> That all looks OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>> check the bolts on the companion flanges for the shafts
>>>
>>> The who? Hmmm....
>>>
>>>
>> Companion flanges are the the round pieces at the ends of the driveshaft
>> that mate with the round pieces on the transmission and differential.
>>
>>
>>>> Check diff fluid level
>>>
>>> Full. So full with both rear wheels off the ground it STILL ran out when
>>> I removed the filler.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Assuming that you mixed the proper amount of LSD additive, I wouldn't
>>>> add more.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm pretty anal about mixing it correctly....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I wouldn't add more.
>>
>> I don't think the problem is differential - related unless it showed up
>> right after you changed the diff fluid.
>
>
> It went away for a while after I changed the gear oil and replaced it with
> LSD oil + GM additive, which was recommended by Toyota (and you, IIRC...)
>
> I used to use Ford in the Hachiroku, because that was all I could get...
>

I think that you are supposed to use LSD oil or regular oil + additive (yes,
I've heard good things about the GM additive) but not LSD + additive.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Scott Dorsey on
JoeSpareBedroom <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" <kludge(a)panix.com> wrote in message
>> JoeSpareBedroom <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>We already have at least one "socialist" health care system in this
>>>country.
>>>Do you think we should abolish it? You know which one I mean. You're an
>>>expert on socialism and health care.
>>
>> You mean the one where members of congress get free health care that is
>> paid for by the taxpayers? I'd be in favor of abolishing that one. Let
>> them have to deal with the insurance companies like the rest of America
>> and I'd bet you'd see a big change...
>
>Nope. That's not the one I was referring to.

How about the one, then, where military members get free health care
provided by military clinic staff? That one is actually a big win because
it's important to keep a large military medical staff available in case
of war and it keeps them trained. Also, of course, it's in the military's
best interest to keep their soldiers leathy.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
From: Scott Dorsey on
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:18:35 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>> "But many wealthy countries -- including Germany, the Netherlands, Japan
>> and Switzerland -- provide universal coverage using private doctors,
>> private hospitals and private insurance plans."
>
>That's all well and good, IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY and people that KNOW WHAT
>THE HELL THEY ARE DOING. We have neither.

And that, in short, is what is wrong with the current system as well.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."