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From: John S. on 12 Oct 2007 08:52 On Oct 10, 8:22 pm, Built_Well <built_well_toy...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm going to follow BadGolferMan's lead, and start > changing my own oil. > > There's a great CD-ROM that comes with the book > "Auto Upkeep - Basic Car Care" by Michael E. Gray. > On the CD is a great checklist of things to do > when changing your car's oil. > > Here it is: > -- > > Upon completion of this activity, you will be able to safely > change the oil and filter on a vehicle. > Uuuhhh...if it takes that many lines to describe how to do something as simple as an oil and filter change I shudder to think how many CD's are needed to describe a brake job! The problem with writing overly detailed instructions to fit all cars is that many readers will focus intently on trying to complete each step in sequence and fail to think about whether a given step makes sense for their car.
From: Built_Well on 12 Oct 2007 13:14 Another thing that disappointed me about my Toyota tech's service was the way he tightened the wheel's lug nuts. Instead of following the manual's procedure of gradually tightening the set of 5 nuts on a wheel, he completely tightened one, then went onto the next. I would have appreciated it if he would have simply tightened each nut half-way before returning to it. That's not too much extra work. Well, at least he did follow a star pattern. But, as I said the other day, the worst part was his not using a torque wrench to tighten the nuts, so he couldn't have precisely applied 76 foot-pounds of torque per lug nut, as the manual calls for. That's not exactly premiere Toyota service. I can only hope no rotors or drums are being warped. (The '06 Camry LE uses drum brakes in the rear and disks in front; the '07 uses disk brakes all around). The tech isn't new. He told me he's been working on Toyotas for years. And he must be 40- or 50- something. So it's not like I got a newcomer to work on my car.
From: Scott in Florida on 12 Oct 2007 13:22 On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:14:18 -0700, Built_Well <Built_Well_Toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Another thing that disappointed me about my Toyota tech's >service was the way he tightened the wheel's lug nuts. > >Instead of following the manual's procedure of gradually >tightening the set of 5 nuts on a wheel, he completely >tightened one, then went onto the next. I would have >appreciated it if he would have simply tightened each >nut half-way before returning to it. That's not too much extra work. > >Well, at least he did follow a star pattern. But, as >I said the other day, the worst part was his not using >a torque wrench to tighten the nuts, so he couldn't have >precisely applied 76 foot-pounds of torque per lug nut, as the manual >calls for. > >That's not exactly premiere Toyota service. > >I can only hope no rotors or drums are being warped. >(The '06 Camry LE uses drum brakes in the rear and >disks in front; the '07 uses disk brakes all around). > > >The tech isn't new. He told me he's been working on >Toyotas for years. And he must be 40- or 50- >something. So it's not like I got a newcomer to >work on my car. If you want your nuts tightened to the correct torque, I suggest you go to Sam's club and buy your tires. Included in the price is lifetime rotate and balance. They use a torque wrench to tighten the wheel nuts. -- Scott in Florida
From: Built_Well on 12 Oct 2007 13:28 Ray O wrote: > [The tech has] to release the trigger when the lug nut stops > rotating because if you keep hammering, they will still allow > the lug nuts to become over-tightened. ======== That's another good reason for the techs to use torque wrenches instead of impact guns with torque sticks. The torque wrench I saw at O'Reilly Auto Parts clicks when the proper torque has been reached. You just set it to 76 foot-pounds, and the wrench clicks when 76 is reached. Wonderful. No guessing.
From: Built_Well on 12 Oct 2007 13:33
Scott in Florida wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:14:18 -0700, Built_Well > <Built_Well_Toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Another thing that disappointed me about my Toyota tech's > >service was the way he tightened the wheel's lug nuts. > > > >Instead of following the manual's procedure of gradually > >tightening the set of 5 nuts on a wheel, he completely > >tightened one, then went onto the next. I would have > >appreciated it if he would have simply tightened each > >nut half-way before returning to it. That's not too much extra work. > > > >Well, at least he did follow a star pattern. But, as > >I said the other day, the worst part was his not using > >a torque wrench to tighten the nuts, so he couldn't have > >precisely applied 76 foot-pounds of torque per lug nut, as the manual > >calls for. > > > >That's not exactly premiere Toyota service. > > > >I can only hope no rotors or drums are being warped. > >(The '06 Camry LE uses drum brakes in the rear and > >disks in front; the '07 uses disk brakes all around). > > > > > >The tech isn't new. He told me he's been working on > >Toyotas for years. And he must be 40- or 50- > >something. So it's not like I got a newcomer to > >work on my car. > > If you want your nuts tightened to the correct torque, I suggest you > go to Sam's club and buy your tires. > > Included in the price is lifetime rotate and balance. > > They use a torque wrench to tighten the wheel nuts. > > -- > Scott in Florida ======== I might do that when it comes time to replace the original Goodyear tires. Next time I visit Sam's, I'll check in on the fellas to make sure they're using torque wrenches here, too. |