From: Built_Well on 11 Oct 2007 12:36
> Built_Well wrote:
>> Thanks for the reassuring words about not warping the rotors
>> even with 100 foot-pounds of torque being applied to the
>> wheel's lug nuts. At least, I think that's what you're saying?
>> The '06 Camry manual calls for 76 foot-pounds (ft-lbf) of torque
>> being applied, which seems a lot less than 100.
>> If my dealer's tech torqued'em 100 ft-lbs, instead of 76, I wouldn't
>> say that's premiere service. Do you think the $25 torque wrench at
>> O'Reilly Auto Parts is accurate enough? That's the only one I saw
>> there. Will check AutoZone tomorrow.
> Some impact wrenches can put up a heck of a lot more than 100 lb-ft.
> I have seen some that can literally shear off a lug bolt.
> TorqStix dont always solve the problem either. I had two sets of
> front rotors warped at Discount Tire with their damn torque sticks.
> A cheap torque wrench is better than no torque wrench. If you
> are off by 5 pounds or so (between 50 and 100 lb-ft) , what the heck
> as long as the tightening is uniform. Use the star tightening sequence.
Hls, I think your answer is important enough that I'm going to
re-post it here under the main thread to make sure I see it in case
I feel the need to re-read this thread 6 months from now when
I first change the oil.
From: hls on 11 Oct 2007 14:23
"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> Several responses that did answer the question without any sort of smart
> remark whatsoever referred to the possibility of left handed threads, that
> is why I was asking.
I went back to your post and didnt find anything that I could correlate with
a question about left handed threads.
My response to you was not intended to be flippant. You did not seem to
know how to perceive "clockwise".
A post told you that left handed threads are rare in cars. They are. Some
Chrysler products used left handed threads on lug nuts on one side of the
car. ( It wasnt necessary, but they did it anyway). I believe some fan
may also entail left handed threads.
When removing bolts, you might not have any way to know if a left hander is
hiding there. So proceed cautiously. Lots of right hand threaded bolts
have been stripped and broken off by people who get too rambunctious with
From: news on 11 Oct 2007 15:42
Mark A wrote:
> "news" <rollingviolation(a)domain.invalid.com> wrote in message
>> I prefer to now use a pair of disposable gloves. Less mess, less used oil
>> goodies under my fingernails. The oil's not THAT hot, you're not soaking
>> in it, you're just removing the filler plug.
>> The funny thing is the reason why I started wearing disposable gloves when
>> working on cars... kids. When my first kid started teething two years ago
>> and wanted to chew on my knuckle... it couldn't be if I just came in from
>> the garage, and even then... blech...
>> Kids do the weirdest things to you...
> From the NIH (National Institute of Health):
> "Warning: continuous contact with used motor oil has caused skin cancer in
> laboratory animal tests. Avoid prolonged contact. Wash skin with soap and
> water. Launder or discard soiled clothing."
Yup. Seen the warnings for a while. Even though I'm just a diy-er, I
really didn't think about this stuff until I had kids. Now, I do
because I'd like to live long enough to see my kids grow up.
(But I'm still going racing.)
From: larry moe 'n curly on 11 Oct 2007 16:49
> There's a great CD-ROM that comes with the book
> "Auto Upkeep - Basic Car Care" by Michael E. Gray.
> On the CD is a great checklist of things to do
> when changing your car's oil.
> Special Tools Needed:
> Safety glasses, basic hand tools, correct size wrench for oil plug,
> oil filter wrench, jack and jack stands (or an automotive lift),
> oil drain pan, funnel, blocks for chocking tires (jack and jack stands
What, no big metal pan to put under the vehicle to catch all the oil
spills? No magnet or long pliers to fetch the oil drain screw in
case it drops into the pan?
> While the oil is draining, use an oil filter wrench to loosen and remove
> the oil filter.
> Set the oil filter in the oil drain pan so the oil can drain out of it.
The first thing I do is I loosen the filter until there's a gap
between it and the engine so heat can escape.
The oil film on the gasket helps it seat better. It must be important
because when o-rings for air conditioner hose assemblies aren't lubed,
they leak like crazy.
From: Steve W. on 11 Oct 2007 17:15
> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
>> Several responses that did answer the question without any sort of smart
>> remark whatsoever referred to the possibility of left handed threads,
>> is why I was asking.
> I went back to your post and didnt find anything that I could correlate
> a question about left handed threads.
> My response to you was not intended to be flippant. You did not seem to
> know how to perceive "clockwise".
> A post told you that left handed threads are rare in cars. They are. Some
> Chrysler products used left handed threads on lug nuts on one side of the
> car. ( It wasnt necessary, but they did it anyway). I believe some fan
> may also entail left handed threads.
> When removing bolts, you might not have any way to know if a left hander is
> hiding there. So proceed cautiously. Lots of right hand threaded bolts
> have been stripped and broken off by people who get too rambunctious with
> a wrench.
If you have a GM belt tensioner with a flat idler pulley it has a left
hand threaded bolt securing the pulley to the tensioner. Just replaced
another one on a vehicle that the owner tried to "repair" by replacing
the idler. OOPS.
Near Cooperstown, New York