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From: Ray O on 11 Oct 2007 03:04 "Mark A" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:pnjPi.15$5c.3(a)bignews1.bellsouth.net... > "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message > news:KZKdnT_Dft- >> Always use the highest API rating available, currently SM for gasoline >> engine passenger vehicles. >> >> Ray O > > If you are going to use an oil that is better than recommended by the > manufacturer, then you might as well quit fooling around and use a full > synthetic from a reputable brand like Mobil 1 (and some others). If you do > that, you don't have to bother with checking API ratings etc. > That logic makes sense, although I'm pretty sure that most automakers specify API grade SM, which is what most, if not all, of the oil on the shelves in auto parts stores is. > Using a full synthetic is usually cheaper in the long run for about 75% of > the people (with the major exception being people who lease a car for 3 > years or less and do not purchase it when the lease is over). > > Of course, this will cut down on sales of new cars, and reduce employment > in the auto business.. We used to say "thank heavens for people who have to have the latest and greatest new Toyota or business would suck" :-) -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Built_Well on 11 Oct 2007 03:17 Ray O wrote: > ....API grade SM, which is what most, if not all, of the oil on the > shelves in auto parts stores is. ======== Today I saw Royal Purple oil at a store with an older API SL rating. Saw a couple other brands like that, too, but can't remember who they were--probably Napa house brand and one other brand.
From: Daniel W. Rouse Jr. on 11 Oct 2007 06:34 "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:470d6c85$0$68465$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... > > I'm going to follow BadGolferMan's lead, and start > changing my own oil. > [snip...] > Use the correct size wrench to loosen (turn counter-clockwise) the oil > drain plug. Use a shop rag to protect your hand from the hot oil. Keep > a steady inward pressure on the plug to avoid the hot oil from running > down your arm. If oil seems too hot to touch, allow the oil to cool. > From which reference point is this counter-clockwise direction referenced? Facing the front of the car, or facing the rear of the car (when underneath the car)? It may seem like an obvious question, but no oil change manual or instruction set I have seen ever actually qualifies this. It seems important, though, because turning counter-clockwise from the wrong reference point would actually be turning more clockwise. [snip...]
From: E Meyer on 11 Oct 2007 07:06 On 10/11/07 5:34 AM, in article HaGdnThQC9CwYZDanZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d(a)nethere.com, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote: > "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:470d6c85$0$68465$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... >> >> I'm going to follow BadGolferMan's lead, and start >> changing my own oil. >> > > [snip...] > >> Use the correct size wrench to loosen (turn counter-clockwise) the oil >> drain plug. Use a shop rag to protect your hand from the hot oil. Keep >> a steady inward pressure on the plug to avoid the hot oil from running >> down your arm. If oil seems too hot to touch, allow the oil to cool. >> > From which reference point is this counter-clockwise direction referenced? > Facing the front of the car, or facing the rear of the car (when underneath > the car)? > > It may seem like an obvious question, but no oil change manual or > instruction set I have seen ever actually qualifies this. It seems > important, though, because turning counter-clockwise from the wrong > reference point would actually be turning more clockwise. > > [snip...] > > That's just silly. The reference point is facing the head of the bolt.
From: Tegger on 11 Oct 2007 07:09
"Mark A" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in news:YJgPi.555$Y7.207(a)bignews7.bellsouth.net: > "news" <rollingviolation(a)domain.invalid.com> wrote in message > news:vxgPi.10148$1y4.2341(a)pd7urf2no... >> I prefer to now use a pair of disposable gloves. Less mess, less >> used oil goodies under my fingernails. The oil's not THAT hot, >> you're not soaking in it, you're just removing the filler plug. >> >> The funny thing is the reason why I started wearing disposable gloves >> when working on cars... kids. When my first kid started teething two >> years ago and wanted to chew on my knuckle... it couldn't be if I >> just came in from the garage, and even then... blech... >> >> Kids do the weirdest things to you... >> >> Ray > > From the NIH (National Institute of Health): > > "Warning: continuous contact with used motor oil has caused skin > cancer in laboratory animal tests. Avoid prolonged contact. Wash skin > with soap and water. Launder or discard soiled clothing." > > That's from the "maximum tolerated dose" approach the alarmists love to use. They probably kept the lab rats' skin coated with used motor oil for months at a time solid, then one or two them came down with skin cancer. I wonder how many of the animals would have contracted cancer if the oil had been painted on, left there for a half-hour, then washed off with soap and water. And done only three or four times a year. -- Tegger |