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From: edspyhill01 on 9 Jul 2010 11:59 On Jul 9, 12:39 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <i3cb36hjma8ejpuhfgvgtaps27d0e1v...(a)4ax.com>, > Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:01:32 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >In article <c6m3361ut4dc4bv98rg27hbme16junt...(a)4ax.com>, > > >Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... > > > >>http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2010/07/more_than_1000_h.... > > >> "More than 1,000 HIV/AIDS patients across Ohio to lose benefits" > > >> [ > > >> About 1,000 HIV/AIDS patients throughout Ohio will no longer be eligible for > > >> free medication from the state -- and hundreds of others will see their benefits > > >> cut -- because rising costs are depleting the program's funds. > > >> .... > > >> ] > > > >You mean ObamaCare didn't fix this ? > > > It's not even started much yet. Phases in over > > several years. > > Sad that you have no clues what it's about. > > Faux & Rush failed to tell you, eh? > > Why do you lie so much ? > > Health-Care Changes to Start Taking Effect This Yearhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aa32kl.M09T4 > > "Indoor tanning salons will charge customers a 10 percent tax beginning > in July in one of the changes Americans will see as a result of the U.S. > health-care overhaul signed into law by President Barack Obama. > > Insurers will be required by September to begin providing health > coverage to kids with pre-existing illnesses and allow parents to keep > children younger than 26 on their plans as the clock has begun ticking > on many of the law?s provisions. Medicare recipients will receive a $250 > rebate for prescription drugs when they reach a coverage gap called the > donut hole if the Senate passes and the president signs companion > legislation approved March 21 by the U.S. House. > > The $940 billion overhaul subsidizes coverage for uninsured Americans, > financed by Medicare cuts to hospitals and fees or taxes on insurers, > drugmakers, medical-device companies and Americans earning more than > $200,000 a year. Many of the changes in the bill of more than 2,400 > pages, such as requiring most people to have health insurance and > employers to provide coverage, will take at least two years to go into > effect. > > ?Most of the major public policy changes embodied in the health care > reform legislation will become effective only after the next > presidential election in 2012,? said Maury Harris, an economist with UBS > AG, said in a research report. > > High-Risk Pools > > Within 90 days, the law will provide immediate access to high-risk > insurance plans for people who can?t get insurance because of a pre- > existing medical problem, Harris said. These high-risk pools will be > funded by $5 billion in federal grants. > > Companies led by Minnetonka, Minnesota-based UnitedHealth Group Inc., > the largest health insurer, will be banned within six months from > dropping a person?s coverage because of severe illness and from limiting > lifetime or annual benefits. > > Participants in Medicare, the U.S. government?s health coverage for > those 65 and older, are expected get a $250 rebate toward prescription > drugs once their benefits run out -- a coverage gap know as the > ?doughnut hole.? The benefit is part of the package of amendments to the > legislation now pending in the Senate. Drugmakers led by New York-based > Pfizer Inc. will have to offer discounted drugs to Medicare recipients > next year, according to an analysis of the legislation by the Kaiser > Family Foundation, a nonprofit group based in Menlo Park, California > > In 2013, individuals whose annual income is more than $200,000 and > couples making more than $250,000 will see an increase in Medicare > payroll taxes. Those taxes will also be expanded to cover dividend, > interest and other unearned income. > > Employer Coverage > > In 2014, employers with more than 50 employees will be required to > provide health coverage and most people will be required to have health > insurance, Harris said in his report. > > A tax on high-cost ?Cadillac? policies won?t go into effect until 2018. > The insurance industry also faces about $60 billion in additional fees > under the health bill through 2018, and more beyond, though it was able > to postpone the levy until 2014. > > By 2019, the bill is expected to have expanded health insurance coverage > to 32 million people, according to UBS?s Harris. > > The U.S. Health and Human Services Department will have two years to set > penalties on hospitals with high readmission rates and longer to test > new payment systems for Franklin, Tennessee- based Community Health > Systems Inc., the largest U.S. chain, and its rivals. > > Financial Disclosure > > Insurers also will have to reveal how much of members? premiums they > spend on medical care, as opposed to executive salaries or other > administrative costs. Next year, they?ll owe a rebate to customers if > the insurers spend less than 80 percent on benefits for people in > individual or small-group plans. > > Starting in 2014, states have their say. The legislation leaves it to > them to set up and run the online marketplaces, known as exchanges, > where customers will comparison-shop for coverage. Among other powers, > the exchanges will be able to banish plans for premium increases deemed > to be unjustified. > > The legislation also creates an Independent Payment Advisory Board to > suggest cuts in spending by Medicare, the government health program for > the elderly and disabled, that could threaten payments for drug and > device-makers. Starting in 2014, the panel?s recommendations would take > effect unless federal lawmakers substitute their own reductions." > > And they kick it off with increased taxes....- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - If we would cut defense spending by at least 50%, we would have almost $500b extra available.
From: Cliff on 9 Jul 2010 16:51
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 21:39:33 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carrier(a)gmail.com> wrote: >In article <i3cb36hjma8ejpuhfgvgtaps27d0e1v4jd(a)4ax.com>, >Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... >> >> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:01:32 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carrier(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >In article <c6m3361ut4dc4bv98rg27hbme16juntar6(a)4ax.com>, >> >Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om says... >> >> >> >> http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2010/07/more_than_1000_hivaids_patient.html >> >> "More than 1,000 HIV/AIDS patients across Ohio to lose benefits" >> >> [ >> >> About 1,000 HIV/AIDS patients throughout Ohio will no longer be eligible for >> >> free medication from the state -- and hundreds of others will see their benefits >> >> cut -- because rising costs are depleting the program's funds. >> >> .... >> >> ] >> > >> >You mean ObamaCare didn't fix this ? >> >> It's not even started much yet. Phases in over >> several years. >> Sad that you have no clues what it's about. >> Faux & Rush failed to tell you, eh? > >Why do you lie so much ? > >Health-Care Changes to Start Taking Effect This Year >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aa32kl.M09T4 "to Start" "It's not even started much yet." >"Indoor tanning salons will charge customers a 10 percent tax beginning >in July in one of the changes Americans will see as a result of the U.S. >health-care overhaul signed into law by President Barack Obama. > >Insurers will be required by September to begin providing health >coverage to kids with pre-existing illnesses and allow parents to keep >children younger than 26 on their plans as the clock has begun ticking >on many of the law?s provisions. Medicare recipients will receive a $250 >rebate for prescription drugs when they reach a coverage gap called the >donut hole if the Senate passes and the president signs companion >legislation approved March 21 by the U.S. House. > >The $940 billion overhaul subsidizes coverage for uninsured Americans, >financed by Medicare cuts to hospitals and fees or taxes on insurers, >drugmakers, medical-device companies and Americans earning more than >$200,000 a year. Many of the changes in the bill of more than 2,400 >pages, such as requiring most people to have health insurance and >employers to provide coverage, will take at least two years to go into >effect. > >?Most of the major public policy changes embodied in the health care >reform legislation will become effective only after the next >presidential election in 2012,? said Maury Harris, an economist with UBS >AG, said in a research report. > >High-Risk Pools > >Within 90 days, the law will provide immediate access to high-risk >insurance plans for people who can?t get insurance because of a pre- >existing medical problem, Harris said. These high-risk pools will be >funded by $5 billion in federal grants. > >Companies led by Minnetonka, Minnesota-based UnitedHealth Group Inc., >the largest health insurer, will be banned within six months from >dropping a person?s coverage because of severe illness and from limiting >lifetime or annual benefits. > >Participants in Medicare, the U.S. government?s health coverage for >those 65 and older, are expected get a $250 rebate toward prescription >drugs once their benefits run out -- a coverage gap know as the >?doughnut hole.? The benefit is part of the package of amendments to the >legislation now pending in the Senate. Drugmakers led by New York-based >Pfizer Inc. will have to offer discounted drugs to Medicare recipients >next year, according to an analysis of the legislation by the Kaiser >Family Foundation, a nonprofit group based in Menlo Park, California > >In 2013, individuals whose annual income is more than $200,000 and >couples making more than $250,000 will see an increase in Medicare >payroll taxes. Those taxes will also be expanded to cover dividend, >interest and other unearned income. > >Employer Coverage > >In 2014, employers with more than 50 employees will be required to >provide health coverage and most people will be required to have health >insurance, Harris said in his report. > >A tax on high-cost ?Cadillac? policies won?t go into effect until 2018. >The insurance industry also faces about $60 billion in additional fees >under the health bill through 2018, and more beyond, though it was able >to postpone the levy until 2014. > >By 2019, the bill is expected to have expanded health insurance coverage >to 32 million people, according to UBS?s Harris. > >The U.S. Health and Human Services Department will have two years to set >penalties on hospitals with high readmission rates and longer to test >new payment systems for Franklin, Tennessee- based Community Health >Systems Inc., the largest U.S. chain, and its rivals. > >Financial Disclosure > >Insurers also will have to reveal how much of members? premiums they >spend on medical care, as opposed to executive salaries or other >administrative costs. Next year, they?ll owe a rebate to customers if >the insurers spend less than 80 percent on benefits for people in >individual or small-group plans. > >Starting in 2014, states have their say. The legislation leaves it to >them to set up and run the online marketplaces, known as exchanges, >where customers will comparison-shop for coverage. Among other powers, >the exchanges will be able to banish plans for premium increases deemed >to be unjustified. > >The legislation also creates an Independent Payment Advisory Board to >suggest cuts in spending by Medicare, the government health program for >the elderly and disabled, that could threaten payments for drug and >device-makers. Starting in 2014, the panel?s recommendations would take >effect unless federal lawmakers substitute their own reductions." > > >And they kick it off with increased taxes.... "Phases in over several years." You were saying? -- Cliff |