From: Aratzio on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:50:54 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) got double secret
probation for writing:

>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote in
>news:b15k569q460jl3qvp1v7u0sofobq4akrpc(a)4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:11:34 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
>> writing:
>>
>>>On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:18:24 -0500, Gray Ghost wrote:
>>>
>>>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>>> wrote in news:py46o.44754$4B7.28423(a)newsfe16.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:10:17 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:03:00 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
>>>>>> grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) got double secret
>>>>>> probation for writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>>>>>>wrote in news:F8X5o.56446$YX3.51560(a)newsfe18.iad:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:02:28 -0500, Gray Ghost wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=
>>>>>>>>> <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in news:UNJ5o.48002$xZ2.40686(a)newsfe07.iad:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:32:38 -0400, ah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You aren't relevant. Nobody really cares what you say.. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> only people that pay any attention to you are pandora and fred,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and they're at least as fucked up as you are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Other than a plaything, you're fairly useless.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It must really thrill you to imagine what dominance means.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oops. I guess there is someone who cares what you say!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But, who cares what he says?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He certainly doesn't seem erudite, does he?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um, which one? I don't think that fits either of them at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Both
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attributions are key here, which ones are you pointing to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for erudition, does a single word response define erudition to
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ooops. I guess he was talking about you afterall, Chowderhead.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brevity is the soul of wit. Only blowhards use more words than
>>>> neccessary.
>>>
>>>Let's see Ratzoo conjure up a 350 line response to this now...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Neither one of you knows the definition of erudite.
>> Neither one of you can read attributions.
>>
>> I'll bet the irony of you performing your "MEE TWO" act is lost on
>> you.
>>
>
>Not surprisingly, wrong again.

I could have written a definition without the requirement of quoting a
dictionary. Erudition does include the ability to both understand and
use the words in one's vocabulary. If you had possibly written your
own definition and then supplied a supporting link it would have at
least provided the veneer of erudition. As such your claim does
nothing other than show that you can cut-n-paste from an online
dictionary.

As to whether brevity and wit are parts of erudite commentary I will
allow for your cut-n-paste definition to provide you with the answer.

>
>erudite /'er?da?t/ listen /'erj?-/ US listen
>Synonyms:
>o adjective: learned, scholarly, lettered, wise
>o noun: savant, scholar, scientist
>o
>If you describe someone as erudite, you mean that they have or show great
>academic knowledge. You can also use erudite to describe something such as a
>book or a style of writing. Adjective formal
>+
>He was never dull, always erudite and well informed.
>+
>...an original and highly erudite style.

So your usage of "brevity is the soul of wit" as a defense for a one
word response was incorrect, since as I wrote, erudition and wit are
not analogous. Specifically the word wit in that usage. Erudite and
wit can be somewhat analogous but that would require use of an
alternate definition for wit.

Someone that had the self-proclaimed expertise in erudition should not
have made such an obvious mistake. They would have the rhetorical
skills to provide a more apt aphorism. Off the top of my head
something on the lines of:
"Verbiage is no replacement for succinct and pointed commentary"

As a side note, the correct phrase for your aphorism is "hackneyed
saw". Inexpertly used by unexceptional minds in hopes of defecting
from their lack of rhetorical skill.

It is sad they no longer teach rhetoric as a subject in schools.
From: Cliff on
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:22:30 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>Your beloved "wingnuts" are not anti-immigrant, they are anti-illegal
>immigrant. There's a significant difference that until you understand it,
>makes you a left wingnut.

See "Quotas"
Solve the "problem" by allowing lots more Hispanics, right?
But then you'd have to pay them a legal wage too .......

Winguts are just blowing smoke for elections & propaganda.
They had control of congress AND bushco.

What did they do?
Nada.
--
Cliff
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:24:33 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

>>Tell me, did you have to Google it?
>
> No, but if you need instructions I can provide them for you.
>
> So, what do you think Erudite means

The opposite of "Aratzio"


Nice try with the redirect, yet again.


From: Aratzio on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 23:59:15 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:34:31 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> "Verbiage is no replacement for a shiny and pointed head"
>
>Right on, Zippy...

Lacking any original thoughts of his own, Hachiroku resorts to post
edits.

From: Aratzio on
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:42:55 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:24:33 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>>>Tell me, did you have to Google it?
>>
>> No, but if you need instructions I can provide them for you.
>>
>> So, what do you think Erudite means
>
>The opposite of "Aratzio"

<STOMP> So there <STOMP>

>
>
>Nice try with the redirect, yet again.
>

What's the matter, cupcake, you don't like when someone sets
follow-ups after you try to set follow-ups? Poor little pissy baby.