From: Alfred Einstein on
"Mark A" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> But these cars also have larger filters and crank cases that hold 7-8
>> qts. Not the wimpy 4 qts in the 4cyl camry.
>>
>> So the lowly camry probably won't fully realize the full benefit of
>> the synthetic oil. Especially when in 2004 Toyota changed from 7500
>> down to 5000 due to sludge, while Honda and GM are increasing towards
>> 12000 mile intervals.
>>
>> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20070326/ai_n18758842
>> "Toyota Motor Corp. reduced its change interval from 7,500 miles to
>> 5,000 in 2004 in part because it found that more drivers ran their
>> vehicles under severe stop-and-start and short trip conditions that
>> cause oil to deteriorate more quickly, said company spokesman Bill
>> Kwong."
>
> Anyone who is even remotely concerned about sludge should use a full
> synthetic oil. This is an absolute no-brainier. Of course, if you change
> your conventional oil at 3000 mile intervals, then sludge is not likely,
> but using a full synthetic at 5000 mile intervals will provide better
> protection (and cost about the same).

Why does this thread sound like an oil commercial?

How do you really know if you've waited too long to change your oil?
How do you know if synthetic oil provides you with any benefit?

I've never seen an authoritative answer to either question.


From: Mark A on
"Alfred Einstein" <no(a)way.jose> wrote in message
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> Why does this thread sound like an oil commercial?

Becasue you are severly jaded.

> How do you really know if you've waited too long to change your oil?

I doubt anyone can tell for sure. But while the car is under warranty, you
need to change the oil according to the manufactuer specifications (or more
often).

> How do you know if synthetic oil provides you with any benefit?

This is the easiest question of all. But if you are going to stick your head
in the sand and ask for proof, then go ahead and make my day and continue
using conventional oil. It makes no difference to me. If everyone used
synthetic oil on a regular basis, new car sales would probably drop about
10% and the world economy would go into a tailspin and millions would
starve. So you are doing a great public service by using conventional oil,
and I thank you for that.

> I've never seen an authoritative answer to either question.

You must not have done a lot of research on the last question.


From: Alfred Einstein on
"Mark A" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Alfred Einstein" <no(a)way.jose> wrote in message
> news:GTMoi.3579$7G1.1931(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>> Why does this thread sound like an oil commercial?
>
> Becasue you are severly jaded.
>
>> How do you really know if you've waited too long to change your oil?
>
> I doubt anyone can tell for sure. But while the car is under warranty, you
> need to change the oil according to the manufactuer specifications (or
> more often).
>
>> How do you know if synthetic oil provides you with any benefit?
>
> This is the easiest question of all. But if you are going to stick your
> head in the sand and ask for proof, then go ahead and make my day and
> continue using conventional oil. It makes no difference to me. If everyone
> used synthetic oil on a regular basis, new car sales would probably drop
> about 10% and the world economy would go into a tailspin and millions
> would starve. So you are doing a great public service by using
> conventional oil, and I thank you for that.
>
>> I've never seen an authoritative answer to either question.
>
> You must not have done a lot of research on the last question.

I ask some simple questions, and you blow up with "stick your head in the
sand" and "make my day" ??

Take a chill pill.


From: Mark A on
"Alfred Einstein" <no(a)way.jose> wrote in message
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> I ask some simple questions, and you blow up with "stick your head in the
> sand" and "make my day" ??
>
> Take a chill pill.

Maybe it would be better if you didn't use that Alfred Einstein handle.


From: Nobody Important on
Alfred Einstein wrote:

> How do you really know if you've waited too long to change your oil?
> How do you know if synthetic oil provides you with any benefit?

The answer to both questions is that you do used oil analysis. It costs
you $20 but it tells you a lot, both about the oil and how the engine is
wearing. I use Blackstone Labs but there are lots of others in the market.

BTW, it's Albert, not Alfred.
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